New B1G Bowl Tie Has Orange Glow

[JonDMiller]

You've never watched a preseason NFL game Jon? How about a baseball game between two teams out of the pennant race?

There was a time when I watched both, but not for the games themselves. I have watched probably 1 minute total of NFL preseason ball this summer and I haven't tuned in for a baseball game since about one week after Rizzo was called up.

 

[83Hawk]

Yea, but when recruiting a kid that walks into your office and see's the Outback trophy he says "what's this from?"

but if he walk in and see's the Orange Bowl trophy, he doesn't say anything. He already knows. And what he knows is, that trophy is a big deal and means something. There are few trophies that have that effect, and If we dont win crystal ball, I'd like to win the next best thing at least. This tie-in is a big deal for the B1G.

Heck Im willing to bet, that other than the Heisman trophy and the crystal ball more fans could recognize the Orange Bowl trophy than any other trophy out there for college.

Only because it is filled with oranges. Take them out, and I'd bet hardly any recruit could tell you what bowl it came from!

 

[OUTofTOWNHAWK]

Well I cant look to far into the future but I have scouted out a somewhat vacant crack house within walking distance from Ford Field in downtown Detroit for Iowas Bowl game this year. All are welcome to come and tailgate. Bring your side piece, hotdogs, and beer.

 

[FUISU]

The NIT was big for a while too, even after the NCAA had become the premier postseason tournament. The popularity of bowls will decline once the playoff begins and they will continue to decline as the playoffs expand. There's no going back now, the bowls will become less and less relevent each year. The gap between haves and have nots is going to continue to grow as well, and Iowa will be on the wrong side of that.

People want to watch football. Period. End of Discussion. Why do think the Pinestripe bowl can pay out? Cause people will watch it. The NFL has a crappy pro-bowl, people watch it and Vegas has a line for it. Just cause you guys claim your not going to watch any post season games outside of the playoffs doesnt mean its true. Im sure you'll have nothing else better to do than watch the Rose on a Tuesday night or the Fiesta on a Thursday night, heck Im sure you'll watch the little Caesars bowl game on a Wednesday night.

People wanna see how the B1G fares against a SEC team, how the PAC12 matches against the B12. The playoffs are sweet but face the facts, bowl games WILL always payout & it helps feed the need for more football. You guys complaining about watching more football are sad, and I'm pulling your man card.

Only because it is filled with oranges. Take them out, and I'd bet hardly any recruit could tell you what bowl it came from!

Really? Thats your rebuttal? Weak sauce, ummmmm 'take off the label between coke cola and pepsi, and I bet 80% of non regular drinkers cant tell the difference.' Orange Bowl with out the oranges, LOL.

 

[FUISU]

(1)Now that there is a playoff, the bowl games are the equivalent of all the NFL teams that dont make the playoffs scrimmaging each other at a neutral site, talk about excitement!! (2) I watched Iowa last year and that was it. 3.)The bowl structure is the most ridiculous thing in sport worldwide and it will lose steam every year the playoff is involved from here on out.

1.) If the NFL had a "toilet bowl" before the Super Bowl weekend, where it pitted the two worst teams in the NFL against each other... People would watch it and I bet it would be pretty chippy cause no one wants to be known as the worst team. Theory disproved

2.) You'll watch Iowa's bowl game for the next 5 years, dont kid yourself and dont lie to yourself. No one posts on a Iowa football forum and follows Iowa than says, "Im done watching bowl games now that we have a 4 team playoff... I dont care if Iowa is in the Rose Bowl playing USC its meaningless".... You same losers will be here in 4 years calling for our coaches head saying he gets paid too much to lose in these meaningless bowl games that mean so much for him to be fired.

3.) A 4 team playoff is to name a National champion. Rose bowl pays out 18 million dollars and has been around since 1902. When B1G fans or PAC12 fans dont have a team in the 4 team playoff, their super bowl will be the Rose Bowl. Also NCAA is looking to add another game to its BCS line up... Conference commissioners discuss tweaking college football postseason format - ESPN But your probably right, Im sure these knuckles heads dont have a clue what they are doing when they are counting all the millions they make doing this stuff. Adding more Bowl games to the Bowl line up? Bunch of idiots says 75% of you guys in this thread

 

[Golfer]

I believe this is good news. Won't bore you with the reasons cuz I don't want to hear about how the Rose Bowl is the only bowl. Lotta Iowa fans would actually love a Texas bowl. They're out of touch also. Not as much as the Rose Bowl folks, but out of touch with the reality that is college football, where the viewers are, and what and who they want to watch.

Also agree Iowa has a better chance now, at a 4 team playoff, and especially when it becomes 8 or 16.

My opinion. Another nickel and you might get a cup of coffee.

 

[83Hawk]

People want to watch football. Period. End of Discussion. Why do think the Pinestripe bowl can pay out? Cause people will watch it. The NFL has a crappy pro-bowl, people watch it and Vegas has a line for it. Just cause you guys claim your not going to watch any post season games outside of the playoffs doesnt mean its true. Im sure you'll have nothing else better to do than watch the Rose on a Tuesday night or the Fiesta on a Thursday night, heck Im sure you'll watch the little Caesars bowl game on a Wednesday night.

People wanna see how the B1G fares against a SEC team, how the PAC12 matches against the B12. The playoffs are sweet but face the facts, bowl games WILL always payout & it helps feed the need for more football. You guys complaining about watching more football are sad, and I'm pulling your man card.



Really? Thats your rebuttal? Weak sauce, ummmmm 'take off the label between coke cola and pepsi, and I bet 80% of non regular drinkers cant tell the difference.' Orange Bowl with out the oranges, LOL.

Weak? Hardly. You really went out on a limb by saying recruits would recognize the Orange Bowl trophy. Even the dumbest of the dumb could figure out a trophy with a bowl full of oranges is for the Orange Bowl. But again...take away the oranges and see how well your theory holds up.

And another thing...you must be fairly young, because you did not need a label to distinguish a glass bottle of Coke from a glass bottle of Pepsi.....they each had their own unique shape. And so do the plastic bottles....so you failed on that, too.

 

[tiberius]

People are greatly underestimating how quickly all bowls will become irrelevant once the playoff starts. Bowl attendance will plunge, especially at the previously high level bowl games.

I think bowls have been irrelevant for some time. The hawks went to a Jan 1 bowl in the 2005 season with 7 wins with this schedule. I count 1 quality win, this made a joke of Jan 1 bowls.

September 3	11:00 AM	Ball State*	#11	Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ESPN+	W 56–0	70,585
September 10	2:30 PM	at Iowa State*	#8	Jack Trice Stadium • Ames, IA	ABC	L 3–23	54,290
September 17	2:30 PM	UNI*		Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ESPN+	W 45–21	70,585
September 24	11:00 AM	#8 Ohio State		Ohio Stadium • Columbus, OH	ABC	L 31–6	105,225
October 1	11:00 AM	Illinois		Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ESPN+	W 35–7	70,585
October 8	3:30 PM	Purdue		Ross-Ade Stadium • West Lafayette, IN	ESPN	W 34–17	64,785
October 15	11:00 AM	Indiana		Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ESPN+	W 38–21	70,585
October 22	11:00 AM	Michigan		Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ABC	L 20–23 [SUP]OT[/SUP]	70,585
November 5	11:00 AM	at Northwestern		Ryan Field • Evanston, IL	ESPN	L 27–28	34,550
November 12	2:30 PM	Wisconsin		Camp Randall Stadium • Madison, WI	ESPN	W 20–10	83,184
November 19	11:00 AM	Minnesota		Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ESPN2	W 52–28	70,585
January 2	10:00 AM	vs. Florida*		Raymond James Stadium • Tampa, FL (Outback Bowl)	ESPN	L 24–31	65,881

 

[Golfer]

Except the market economy says bowls are relevant. Outside of that fact, I guess they are irrelevant.

 

[hawkfan33]

Except the market economy says bowls are relevant. Outside of that fact, I guess they are irrelevant.

For now...once the playoffs start the bowls will eventually become second class games, much like the NIT. Even the Rose and Orange Bowls will go this way if they don't work out an agreement to become semi final playoff games. This won't happen overnight, but 15-20 years from now this is exactly how it's going to be.

 

[RocknRollface]

1.) If the NFL had a "toilet bowl" before the Super Bowl weekend, where it pitted the two worst teams in the NFL against each other... People would watch it and I bet it would be pretty chippy cause no one wants to be known as the worst team. Theory disproved

2.) You'll watch Iowa's bowl game for the next 5 years, dont kid yourself and dont lie to yourself. No one posts on a Iowa football forum and follows Iowa than says, "Im done watching bowl games now that we have a 4 team playoff... I dont care if Iowa is in the Rose Bowl playing USC its meaningless".... You same losers will be here in 4 years calling for our coaches head saying he gets paid too much to lose in these meaningless bowl games that mean so much for him to be fired.

3.) A 4 team playoff is to name a National champion. Rose bowl pays out 18 million dollars and has been around since 1902. When B1G fans or PAC12 fans dont have a team in the 4 team playoff, their super bowl will be the Rose Bowl. Also NCAA is looking to add another game to its BCS line up... Conference commissioners discuss tweaking college football postseason format - ESPN But your probably right, Im sure these knuckles heads dont have a clue what they are doing when they are counting all the millions they make doing this stuff. Adding more Bowl games to the Bowl line up? Bunch of idiots says 75% of you guys in this thread

No one is saying they aren't going to watch whatever game "their" team is in but thats not enough to keep the bowl system going.

The smaller bowls will still be fairly similar mostly because those are lone night games in december, but demand for the BCS/jan bowls is going to fall through the floor and demand for more playoffs is going to be huge.

You can't have games that were once the pinnacle of college football and at least potentially held national title implications continue to be taken seriously when that aspect is completely and forever removed. Especially when they are going to be played right before the real games start.

The only thing separating them and the littel ceaasers bowl is a 3-7 place finish in a random conference and nostalgia.

An 8 team playoff will be the end of the Jan bowls. For that reason it will be strongly opposed but the money for the playoffs will be impossible to stop.

I would have preferred to stay with the old system but once they started messing with it with the BCS this was the inevitable result.

 

[74Hunter]

Meh. Never cared for the Orange Bowl all that much. When I was growing up, the Rose Bowl was the best, followed by the Cotton Bowl. The Orange and Sugar were usually on at the same time, so would watch the Orange.

Of course, that was before there were a dozen bowl games on New Year's Day.

The Orange Bowl is teh Jan Brady of the "Big Time" bowls.

83, not sure when you grew up, but it had to have been prior to the 70's for this to be true. Since 1970 until the current BCS system went into play, the Orange Bowl has been the much better game historically, as it has been relevant in many, many more mythical National Championships than the Rose Bowl has. The Rose hasn't meant much since the 60's. You are both dead wrong.

Edit: Now, if you want to say that the OB is the Jan Brady of big bowls since the ACC/Big East tie-in was put into effect, I agree. That was a sad, sad, horrible decision.

 

[83Hawk]

83, not sure when you grew up, but it had to have been prior to the 70's for this to be true. Since 1970 until the current BCS system went into play, the Orange Bowl has been the much better game historically, as it has been relevant in many, many more mythical National Championships than the Rose Bowl has. The Rose hasn't meant much since the 60's. You are both dead wrong.

Edit: Now, if you want to say that the OB is the Jan Brady of big bowls since the ACC/Big East tie-in was put into effect, I agree. That was a sad, sad, horrible decision.

Well, I was born in 1958.

I'm not talking about mythical National Championship implications, or anything like that. Out of the 4 New Years Day bowls (at that time)...the Rose was my favorite, followed by the Cotton, then Orange, then Sugar. Rarely watched the Sugar Bowl...but of the other 3, the Orange Bowl had the least amount of college football "feel".

I'm speaking only from MY enjoyment...not the relevance of the game itself.

 

[hawkfan33]

Well, I was born in 1958.

I'm not talking about mythical National Championship implications, or anything like that. Out of the 4 New Years Day bowls (at that time)...the Rose was my favorite, followed by the Cotton, then Orange, then Sugar. Rarely watched the Sugar Bowl...but of the other 3, the Orange Bowl had the least amount of college football "feel".

I'm speaking only from MY enjoyment...not the relevance of the game itself.

I found it pretty enjoyable to watch Nebraska lose on an almost yearly basis in the Orange Bowl.

 

[74Hunter]

Well, I was born in 1958.

I'm not talking about mythical National Championship implications, or anything like that. Out of the 4 New Years Day bowls (at that time)...the Rose was my favorite, followed by the Cotton, then Orange, then Sugar. Rarely watched the Sugar Bowl...but of the other 3, the Orange Bowl had the least amount of college football "feel".

I'm speaking only from MY enjoyment...not the relevance of the game itself.

Wow, I don't know why you felt that way, but that it your opinion, you're entitled to it.

I found it pretty enjoyable to watch Nebraska lose on an almost yearly basis in the Orange Bowl.

That's funny, because by my account, DoNU is 8-9 all time in Orange Bowls, with wins in the last 3 OBs they played in. I realize that you might not get this, but losing some of them will happen when you go to a major bowl pretty much every year, and you annually have to face one of the Top 3 teams in the country.

 

[hawkfan33]

Wow, I don't know why you felt that way, but that it your opinion, you're entitled to it.


That's funny, because by my account, DoNU is 8-9 all time in Orange Bowls, with wins in the last 3 OBs they played in. I realize that you might not get this, but losing some of them will happen when you go to a major bowl pretty much every year, and you annually have to face one of the Top 3 teams in the country.

I believe you meant when you went to a major bowl pretty much every year. Those days are over my friend, time to stop living in the past.

 

[74Hunter]

I believe you meant when you went to a major bowl pretty much every year. Those days are over my friend, time to stop living in the past.

True, but again, I'd rather have them in my past, than never had experienced them at all. I'll take 40 years of being a national contender, even if the last 10 years haven't been up to standard.

 

[treychase]

I think bowls have been irrelevant for some time. The hawks went to a Jan 1 bowl in the 2005 season with 7 wins with this schedule. I count 1 quality win, this made a joke of Jan 1 bowls.

September 3	11:00 AM	Ball State*	#11	Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ESPN+	W 56–0	70,585
September 10	2:30 PM	at Iowa State*	#8	Jack Trice Stadium • Ames, IA	ABC	L 3–23	54,290
September 17	2:30 PM	UNI*		Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ESPN+	W 45–21	70,585
September 24	11:00 AM	#8 Ohio State		Ohio Stadium • Columbus, OH	ABC	L 31–6	105,225
October 1	11:00 AM	Illinois		Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ESPN+	W 35–7	70,585
October 8	3:30 PM	Purdue		Ross-Ade Stadium • West Lafayette, IN	ESPN	W 34–17	64,785
October 15	11:00 AM	Indiana		Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ESPN+	W 38–21	70,585
October 22	11:00 AM	Michigan		Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ABC	L 20–23 [SUP]OT[/SUP]	70,585
November 5	11:00 AM	at Northwestern		Ryan Field • Evanston, IL	ESPN	L 27–28	34,550
November 12	2:30 PM	Wisconsin		Camp Randall Stadium • Madison, WI	ESPN	W 20–10	83,184
November 19	11:00 AM	Minnesota		Kinnick Stadium • Iowa City, IA	ESPN2	W 52–28	70,585
January 2	10:00 AM	vs. Florida*		Raymond James Stadium • Tampa, FL (Outback Bowl)	ESPN	L 24–31	65,881

That Northwestern game changed EVERYTHING for me. The level of mismanagement was so profound, I have not looked at Kirk or Iowa the same since.