New B1G Bowl Tie Has Orange Glow

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The Orange Bowl has announced a new at large selection process & if the past ten years is any indicator, the Big Ten will be heading to South Beach...a lot

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It looks like Kelly is getting his program together at ND. So they might have a say in this. But a Notre Dame ACC rematch in Miami would lead to stands like we saw last week. Hopefully the schedule change can help improve the excitement for the also ran bowl.

Nice to know the Fiesta Bowl has gone back to also ran status, because they are the ones that stuck us with the BCS all these years.
 
I don't think you're accounting for the 4 top teams going to the playoffs. In 2005, Ohio State would be in the playoff, so Notre Dame would of been the team to get to the Orange. Same with 2006, Michigan would of been in the playoff so I think Notre Dame would of gone to the Orange.

2002- Notre Dame (Iowa would of played in the Rose)
2003- Georgia (Ohio State would of played in the Rose)
2004- LSU (Georgia would of played in Champions Bowl)
2005- Notre Dame (Ohio State would of been in the playoffs)
2006- Notre Dame (Michigan would of been in the playoffs, Wisconsin in the Rose, Auburn in the Champions)
2007- Florida (Georgia would of been in Champions)
2008- Ohio State
2009- Iowa
2010- Ohio State
2001- South Carolina
 
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Sounds like the Orange Bowl will become even more meaningless after the playoff starts. College Football desperately needs a 8 or 16 team playoff.

ChuckD4735 said:
I don't think you're accounting for the 4 top teams going to the playoffs. In 2005, Ohio State would be in the playoff, so Notre Dame would of been the team to get to the Orange. Same with 2006, Michigan would of been in the playoff so I think Notre Dame would of gone to the Orange.

2002- Notre Dame (Iowa would of played in the Rose)
2003- Georgia (Ohio State would of played in the Rose)
2004- LSU (Georgia would of played in Champions Bowl)
2005- Notre Dame (Ohio State would of been in the playoffs)
2006- Notre Dame (Michigan would of been in the playoffs, Wisconsin in the Rose, Auburn in the Champions)
2007- Florida (Georgia would of been in Champions)
2008- Ohio State
2009- Iowa
2010- Ohio State
2001- South Carolina
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FML said:
Sounds like the Orange Bowl will become even more meaningless after the playoff starts. College Football desperately needs a 8 or 16 team playoff.
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People are greatly underestimating how quickly all bowls will become irrelevant once the playoff starts. Bowl attendance will plunge, especially at the previously high level bowl games.
 
Bowls have already been meaningless. But people show up. People like to watch their team play.
 
ICHawk24 said:
Bowls have already been meaningless. But people show up. People like to watch their team play.
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No, a bowl is still the best every team can hope for at the end of the year. Obviously some bowls are better than others, but now with the playoff every bowl becomes a consolation prize. Hard to get a fan base fired up for that when they have playoff hopes every year.
 
HawkForce said:
If they go to an 8 or 16 team playoff I'm done.
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Bowl attendance is dropping every year. Many people don't have the time or money anymore to follow their teams to meaningless bowl games. On campus playoff games takes care of that.

Does everyone realize that if Delaney and the B1G didn't have such a hard on for the Rose Bowl, we would likely already have a playoff system in place, like right now?
 
ChuckD4735 said:
I don't think you're accounting for the 4 top teams going to the playoffs. In 2005, Ohio State would be in the playoff, so Notre Dame would of been the team to get to the Orange. Same with 2006, Michigan would of been in the playoff so I think Notre Dame would of gone to the Orange.

2002- Notre Dame (Iowa would of played in the Rose)
2003- Georgia (Ohio State would of played in the Rose)
2004- LSU (Georgia would of played in Champions Bowl)
2005- Notre Dame (Ohio State would of been in the playoffs)
2006- Notre Dame (Michigan would of been in the playoffs, Wisconsin in the Rose, Auburn in the Champions)
2007- Florida (Georgia would of been in Champions)
2008- Ohio State
2009- Iowa
2010- Ohio State
2001- South Carolina
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Chuck, good stuff. As I was writing this around midnight last night, I kept asking myself, 'What am I missing?' I went through the numbers two or three times. Walking to bed, I kept worrying that there was an element that was missing.

I will go back in and rework things taking the Top Four out of the mix.
 
There is a two team playoff right now. It expands to four teams in a couple years. Not the sea change that you want to pretend it is. For schools like Iowa, the playoff is frankly a pipe dream.
 
Chuck, I just went in and ran the numbers again, and compared to your list. You were spot on. Well done, and I have edited my piece. Thanks for pointing it out.
 
ICHawk24 said:
There is a two team playoff right now. It expands to four teams in a couple years. Not the sea change that you want to pretend it is. For schools like Iowa, the playoff is frankly a pipe dream.
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I don't see a playoff helping. Few teams will be fighting for the mythical championship even in a expanded playoff. A bowl trip is a reward at the end of the season. The best thing is the extra practice it allows for teams that go. I think it is unfair to teams that don't make a bowl to have to stop practicing untill all teams are done playing. It's an unfair advantage. Look at all the extra practice time a team gets that plays in Jan vs one that plays in early Dec.
 
ICHawk24 said:
There is a two team playoff right now. It expands to four teams in a couple years. Not the sea change that you want to pretend it is. For schools like Iowa, the playoff is frankly a pipe dream.
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While I wouldn't say pipe dream, Iowa would have factored into the Final Four discussion just two times in the last 27 years or so. 1985 & 2002. Iowa was 4th in the final regular season AP Poll in 1985....and probably back to the early 1960's for that matter
 
The Rose and Orange, two of the most historic games, are now consolation games. But they are still the games the B1G will aspire to because they're done playing for National Titles anyway.
 
Meh. Never cared for the Orange Bowl all that much. When I was growing up, the Rose Bowl was the best, followed by the Cotton Bowl. The Orange and Sugar were usually on at the same time, so would watch the Orange.

Of course, that was before there were a dozen bowl games on New Year's Day.
 
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