AreWeThereYet
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Were they playing the Stanford band.
Need to Upgrade Nonconference Schedule
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Were they playing the Stanford band.
koralakers
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u guys are nuts. our scheduling has always been ABOVE AVERAGE than other P5 schools. ALmost always play TWO P5 occ games. Most only play one. Now, we play NINE BIG games. check out other conferences and the massive cream puffs they play ooc every yr. I, for one apparently, would like to go 8-4 and play in a decent bowl.
With the schedule you guys want, we will be 5-7 every year. Unless some IA grad stumbles across an old hidden pirates treasure trove and donates a billion dollars to the athletic department, and we fire KF and bribe Saban to come here with a $100 million/year salary, and we actually get tons of 4-5 star recruits every year, then we can compete and start scheduling LSU, Ala, FSU, ND, etc for all our ooc games. Unless that happens, our schedule, again, is ABOVE AVERAGE for P5 schools.
With the schedule you guys want, we will be 5-7 every year. Unless some IA grad stumbles across an old hidden pirates treasure trove and donates a billion dollars to the athletic department, and we fire KF and bribe Saban to come here with a $100 million/year salary, and we actually get tons of 4-5 star recruits every year, then we can compete and start scheduling LSU, Ala, FSU, ND, etc for all our ooc games. Unless that happens, our schedule, again, is ABOVE AVERAGE for P5 schools.
Unless Iowa can get together with another school and find a neutral site, split the gate, and TV is willing to step in an make up the difference of what Iowa and the other team are losing from giving up a home game I'd afraid Iowa's non-conference slate going forward will always be ISU home/away and 2 home games vs MAC tomato cans.
trj
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This.....Whether it is beating Iowa or upsetting someone else they NEVER take advantage of the momentum it creates. They always end up suckin and we get a bunch of excuses like how difficult it is to play no defense in the Big 12 or it would be so much easier to play in the B1G.
Don't think it is too much to ask to be relevant every once and while.
HawkeyeWalker
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I never would prefer 5-7, regardless of schedule. But I get what your saying.
AreWeThereYet
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With Iowa State always in the mix along with the Big Ten schedule, you have 5 home and 5 away games spoken for. That leaves two home games against whoever you can get. Other teams in the Big Ten are no doubt going to do one home-at-home against a major conference opponent and fill in two home games. at the beginning of the year.
The other teams in the Big Ten are doing one P-5 home-at-home and two cupcake games, mostly against MAC teams. The five or so decent MAC teams should be able to leverage the match-ups they want with the opponents they want.
The other teams in the Big Ten are doing one P-5 home-at-home and two cupcake games, mostly against MAC teams. The five or so decent MAC teams should be able to leverage the match-ups they want with the opponents they want.
When discussing neutral site games, it would need to be an "away" game with 7 other home games on the schedule. There is NO way the revenue from a neutral site game comes close to a home game. You have to consider the non-university impact of a home game. Coralville / Iowa City rake in the $$$$ on home saturdays and I guarantee you Gary Barta and those cities understand that.
Fryowa
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If we're going to have an annual game I'd love to drop the clowns and play Pitt every year. I know there's no logical reason why it would happen and it won't, but those games are always tons of fun, competitive (they're actually a decent team), and their fans aren't remotely as nauseating as ISU's.
AreWeThereYet
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I hadn't realized before this discussion that the 9 game conference schedule plus Iowa State takes all of the 5 available away game slots. As I said, that leaves two home games that are usually "cream puff" type paid opponents. In that case my biggest concern is not getting stuck with perennial bottom feeders like Wyoming.
guffus
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If home games are so important, how come nobody is arguing to drop ISU and play 3 cream puffs at home each year? That way you could get an 8th home game every 2 years. Yet nobody seems to think it's important to start having 8 home games a year.
The need for 7 home games is not a guaranteed right, and only became permanent in 2006. Its not like its been around forever. local businesses may need to think about a business model that is successful even when there is no home football game being played.
Fryowa
Administrator
Getting rid of cream puffs is more important than getting rid of ISU.
Yes, ISU is a cream puff, but we lose to them way more than we should. Might as well make losses (if they happen) be against someone other than the Texas State Armadillos.
AreWeThereYet
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I agree that Pitt was just about the ideal opponent for a challenging out of conference home-at-home series. Iowa was just a little better team.
against Pitt
2015 W 27 - 24
2014 @ W24 - 20
2011 W 31 - 27 big comeback win
2008 @ L 20 - 21
I agree 100%. I am a season ticket holder and there are games like that which I have no excitement over going to watch the game but I go anyway. The Miami of Ohio game will be one of those this fall. NDSU will be mildly interesting even though they lost their QB who is likely to be a 1st round draft pick. Watching those games against MAC teams is just painful. It is kind of like preseason football. Use it to work out the bugs. At least with the Iowa State game here or there it usually is loud and gets the players used to a bigger game environment. Take the North Texas game from last season. That was a game I had 0 interest in seeing in person yet did and it was kind of like going to a picnic.
One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned straight out here is the Iowa v Iowa State game usually does have the intensity of a Big Ten football game to it. I am not saying ISU is a comparable Big Ten team, just the seriousness and intensity of that game and the focus is more like a Big Ten game than playing North Texas or Wyoming, etc.
bigjim
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Every school in the power 5 is going to schedule cupcake games. I myself dont mind these games being played, because these teams in the power 5 conferences need these games with lighter competition to take a break from their rigurious conference schedule. Theres always going to be cupcake games in every power 5 conference. Plus these smaller schools love the payday for these games.
IAHAWK1982
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Maybe when the SEC stops scheduling cupcakes then Iowa should too.
And yet mighty Bama shells out the cash to play Arkansas State...........do you think Bama fans really want to see Arkansas State play?? No more than Iowa fans did a few years back.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/alabama-will-pay-arkansas-state--1-7-million-for-2018-game-205439961.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw
hawkdrummer1
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Some are. Others will say "What are you complaining about, we have a winning record and we're in a bowl game. What do you expect... 10-2 EVERY YEAR?!
As for all the Power 5s doing away with the Puffs... the more the playoff expands, the more willing teams will be to risk a loss...if it's against a Power 5 team. (Stanford last year, for example. They would have been in an 8 team playoff despite 2 losses, as their early one was to NWestern)
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koralakers
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No way. At the end, 'you are what your record says you are'. A decade from now, or longer, you just look at records, NOT "but we played a tougher schedule". Every P5 team schedules an abundance of patsies, at home. Why should we be different. We have a long history (dating back to Fry), of scheduling 10 P5 teams every year. Many P5 teams only play 8 or 9. Now, with expanded BIG schedule, we will continue to play 10 (minimum) as always. We NEED a couple cupcakes in there to test players/see what we have.
Secondly, 5-7 = no bowl (almost always). 7-5 = bowl game, more exposure, 15 extra practices, etc. Huge difference.
