Nebraska wants to re-join the Big 12 conference

Joshbrown said:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/SPORTS/usaedition/2011-05-13-cnotes13_ST_U.htm

And you misread the other part..
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First that article is from 5/12/2011....ancient history.

KFAB, Omaha; Jim Rose did a rebuttal to the NU leaving the B1G for the XII. Per Rose, it was started in Utah and perpetuated by talk radio.......hmmmm, isn't that where BYU is located......hmmmm.

# 1 why they won't leave the B1G.....56,000,00 reasons, that's millions $$$$$$$$ for the sports programs.

Rose went on with other reasons, one being academics; NU is opening a new school of business and has hired a new head of the engineering college. It was also predicted that the XII after expansion, the big xll could be in 3 time zones. NU will not travel 26 different sports to 3 different time zones.

NU gets huge gov't $$$$'s for medical research, which is what the B1G is known for, the BIG does not want to loose that. I believe they are also part of the B1G Cancer Consortium. The NU hospital system is huge.

Not mentioned by Rose.....Tom Osborn is still alive and he was was a large part and motivating factor in putting that move to the B1G together.

IMHO, this issue is what it purports to be....a rumor, a speculation, unfounded, and

Lastly, here's another link & written yesterday, http://www.btpowerhouse.com/2016/10...-conference-expansion-byu-cincinnati-oklahoma

Here's the link's headline:
No, Nebraska Isn’t Going Back To The Big 12
Despite rumblings, Nebraska isn’t leaving the Big Ten.
by Thomas Beindit @tbeindit Oct 5, 2016, 10:37pm
 
tksirius said:
The Big 12 is a shit conference. Nebraska will win more games if they go back. I understand what they're thinking.
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And likely have an easy path to a conference championship game and 1000's of times better chance of winning it. this tells me that things are headed towards 8 team playoff.
 
ChosenChildren said:
Their brand is damaged because they can't win consistently in the Big Ten. I'm not sure they will win consistently in the Big 12, either. The world has changed a lot since 1995. I think today's top athletes view LIncoln as a spot almost as desolate as Laramie, Wyoming. Recruiting is becoming a huge issue for them
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They're all brand damaged.
 
nilkin said:
First that article is from 5/12/2011....ancient history.

KFAB, Omaha; Jim Rose did a rebuttal to the NU leaving the B1G for the XII. Per Rose, it was started in Utah and perpetuated by talk radio.......hmmmm, isn't that where BYU is located......hmmmm.

# 1 why they won't leave the B1G.....56,000,00 reasons, that's millions $$$$$$$$ for the sports programs.

Rose went on with other reasons, one being academics; NU is opening a new school of business and has hired a new head of the engineering college. It was also predicted that the XII after expansion, the big xll could be in 3 time zones. NU will not travel 26 different sports to 3 different time zones.

NU gets huge gov't $$$$'s for medical research, which is what the B1G is known for, the BIG does not want to loose that. I believe they are also part of the B1G Cancer Consortium. The NU hospital system is huge.

Not mentioned by Rose.....Tom Osborn is still alive and he was was a large part and motivating factor in putting that move to the B1G together.

IMHO, this issue is what it purports to be....a rumor, a speculation, unfounded, and

Lastly, here's another link & written yesterday, http://www.btpowerhouse.com/2016/10...-conference-expansion-byu-cincinnati-oklahoma

Here's the link's headline:
No, Nebraska Isn’t Going Back To The Big 12
Despite rumblings, Nebraska isn’t leaving the Big Ten.
by Thomas Beindit @tbeindit Oct 5, 2016, 10:37pm
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Universities


BOOM!!!!

Don't make it so easy for me next time.
 
Joshbrown said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associatreeion_of_American_Universities


BOOM!!!!

Don't make it so easy for me next time.
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BOOM!!!!!

I agree, Wikipedia is certainly the easy way, but certainly not the end-all.

You can stick with wikipedia, but for me, this news article cannot be edited. Read for yourself:
Wikipedia:Introduction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IntroductionWikipedia
"Don't be afraid to edit – anyone can edit almost every page, and we are encouraged to be bold! Find something that can be improved and make it better—for ..."

Here, read the history and why NU and the B1G proceeded, with a unanimious vote, with NU's move to the B1G without the AAU.

Here's the headline and just some of the context from the Missourian newspaper, the Higher Education section, dated March 2016:
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Losing AAU status not fatal for Nebraska
You never know whether it had an impact, right?” Perlman said. “Are there faculty out there we could’ve gotten if we’d had AAU? I don’t know.”

The only time he hears about it is when reporters call to ask.

“Beyond the embarrassment of this,” Perlman said, losing AAU status has affected the university “not a bit.”

Other faculty seem to agree.

Back in May 2011, the Lincoln Journal Star newspaper quoted Mathias Schubert, a university physicist and engineer, saying “the university's expulsion from a group of the top 63 research universities is ‘consequential’ and ‘should be carefully reviewed because several of our peer institutions are members.’” Now, though, Schubert's attitude toward the AAU equates to a shrug.

“I believe it is correct to state that nobody (UNL faculty) really cared about AAU neither before nor after parting from AAU,” he said in an email. “I am not sure if this statement is worse for UNL or for AAU, but I also guess it does not matter anyways. In short, my comment on AAU is: It does not seem to matter.”

Read this for the the 2 reasons why....BS:

The AAU dumped Nebraska essentially for two reasons.

First, the University of Nebraska’s medical school is at its Omaha campus, not the flagship campus in Lincoln. So, any federal research dollar, premier faculty member and publication in a prestigious journal from the medical school couldn’t be counted toward Nebraska’s AAU status.

Second, the university focuses heavily on agriculture research, a priority for a land grant institution. But in the eyes of the AAU, most agricultural research is not peer-reviewed, competitive research, so it is “not considered as highly,” AAU spokesman Barry Toiv said, compared with medical and economic research.

Really not worth the work either one of us put into this thread.......IMHO


 
nilkin said:
BOOM!!!!!

I agree, Wikipedia is certainly the easy way, but certainly not the end-all.

You can stick with wikipedia, but for me, this news article cannot be edited. Read for yourself:
Wikipedia:Introduction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IntroductionWikipedia
"Don't be afraid to edit – anyone can edit almost every page, and we are encouraged to be bold! Find something that can be improved and make it better—for ..."

Here, read the history and why NU and the B1G proceeded, with a unanimious vote, with NU's move to the B1G without the AAU.

Here's the headline and just some of the context from the Missourian newspaper, the Higher Education section, dated March 2016:
  1. Home 2. News 3.Higher Education FEATURED
Losing AAU status not fatal for Nebraska
You never know whether it had an impact, right?” Perlman said. “Are there faculty out there we could’ve gotten if we’d had AAU? I don’t know.”

The only time he hears about it is when reporters call to ask.

“Beyond the embarrassment of this,” Perlman said, losing AAU status has affected the university “not a bit.”

Other faculty seem to agree.

Back in May 2011, the Lincoln Journal Star newspaper quoted Mathias Schubert, a university physicist and engineer, saying “the university's expulsion from a group of the top 63 research universities is ‘consequential’ and ‘should be carefully reviewed because several of our peer institutions are members.’” Now, though, Schubert's attitude toward the AAU equates to a shrug.

“I believe it is correct to state that nobody (UNL faculty) really cared about AAU neither before nor after parting from AAU,” he said in an email. “I am not sure if this statement is worse for UNL or for AAU, but I also guess it does not matter anyways. In short, my comment on AAU is: It does not seem to matter.”

Read this for the the 2 reasons why....BS:

The AAU dumped Nebraska essentially for two reasons.

First, the University of Nebraska’s medical school is at its Omaha campus, not the flagship campus in Lincoln. So, any federal research dollar, premier faculty member and publication in a prestigious journal from the medical school couldn’t be counted toward Nebraska’s AAU status.

Second, the university focuses heavily on agriculture research, a priority for a land grant institution. But in the eyes of the AAU, most agricultural research is not peer-reviewed, competitive research, so it is “not considered as highly,” AAU spokesman Barry Toiv said, compared with medical and economic research.

Really not worth the work either one of us put into this thread.......IMHO
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Sorry bro. Facts are facts. Iowa is in the AAU and Debby isn't. I assume as a cornhusker you're aware the N stands for nowledge?? Bwahahahaha.

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Please stop. Destroying you like your name is ickehawk is making me feel bad.
 
ibahawkeye said:
If Nebraska were to leave, you'd think a conference may want to question partnering with a University that has absolutely no loyalty and has proven multiple times they will go a different route to chase the almighty $$.
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Maybe they should join the MAC so they can starting winning championships again. Oh, wait, isn't Western Michigan in that conference? Oh well
 
What I was referring to as; TV share. Was the share the conference gets from the B12 TV rights. Last I heard, (some time ago) Texas had the lions share of that with their Texas football network.
The B1G members get nearly $20 million a year from BTN etc.
 
Joshbrown said:
Sorry bro. Facts are facts. Iowa is in the AAU and Debby isn't. I assume as a cornhusker you're aware the N stands for nowledge?? Bwahahahaha.

BOOM! vvvv


Please stop. Destroying you like your name is ickehawk is making me feel bad.
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Absolutely not a nebby fan, been a hawk for 70 years. I've never taken the position you espouse....that UI is an AAU member and nebby is not, rather it was NOT a reason to You're acting like an isu fan, your only come back is you make accusations that you are a fan of the other team.
 
nilkin said:
Absolutely not a nebby fan, been a hawk for 70 years. I've never taken the position you espouse....that UI is an AAU member and nebby is not, rather it was NOT a reason to You're acting like an isu fan, your only come back is you make accusations that you are a fan of the other team.
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Bugeater grammar alert! And you're backpedaling. Good call. Best to quit while you're behind.
 
Joshbrown said:
Sorry bro. Facts are facts. Iowa is in the AAU and Debby isn't. I assume as a cornhusker you're aware the N stands for nowledge?? Bwahahahaha.

BOOM! vvvv


Please stop. Destroying you like your name is ickehawk is making me feel bad.
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Absolutely not a nebby fan, been a hawk for 60+ years. I've never taken the position/argument you espouse....that UI is an AAU member and nebby is not; rather, it was a mute point with regards to declining nebby membership in the B1G.

You sound like an isu fan, your only come back is you make accusations that the person taking a different position than you is a fan of the other team being discussed.

Enough, this is going no where. I'm a nice guy as are you.
 
HawkGold said:
Not sure why Nebby would be under the other bottom academic universities in the Big Ten. U Iowa really doesn't have much of anything over them in standards or research. I would guess that Nebby actually has more research due to USDA, but probably under ISU based on what is generated and useful. There probably are politics at play.

I don't find PSU joke particularly funny. Interesting article. And Iowa does have low research and a pretty low academic standard compared to other B 10s. However, that has little impact on football at any school.
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Evidence?
 
HuckFinn said:
Evidence?
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Acceptance requirements aren't hard to look up. Iowa and Nebby are pretty similar. By sheer volume of funding, USDA research is pretty substantial and Iowa doesn't get that money.

Research is pretty political and money related anyway. There is not a lot of unbiased research being done a the university level anymore anyway. Was personally a part of a million dollar research study mostly publicly funded. The results went against what the private donors wanted to see and the study wasn't published. Happens a lot.

Again, the Big isn't going to kick out Nebby without going after places like Iowa and MSU. Iowa does have a benefit by homing a medical school. A lot of engineering research goes on. Neither school is a major engineering player compared to a lot of Big schools.

Many Big schools pretty much one needs to be in the top 10% of high school graduates or higher to get in and an ACT of 26 or higher and much higher in professional programs. Not so at the bottom tier of the Big. Iowa, MSU, and Nebby are in that bottom. Sorry...
 
ibahawkeye said:
If Nebraska were to leave, you'd think a conference may want to question partnering with a University that has absolutely no loyalty and has proven multiple times they will go a different route to chase the almighty $$.
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I don't think its the buck they are chasing because Texas gets the lions share of the revenue. They just want to win. They thought they could take over the Big and found out otherwise. Go back to the easy North division and gaurantee them a trip to the Big12 title game and win it ,then they have a shot at the NC.
 
ChosenChildren said:
Their brand is damaged because they can't win consistently in the Big Ten. I'm not sure they will win consistently in the Big 12, either. The world has changed a lot since 1995. I think today's top athletes view LIncoln as a spot almost as desolate as Laramie, Wyoming. Recruiting is becoming a huge issue for them
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I agree. Many do think that way....until they visit. There is a lot more going on in Lincoln than a lot of people realize. Once those recruits get to town, it really changes their perspective. Is it everyone's cup of tea? Nope, but it's not the dusty little town in the middle of a corn field that many people think it is.

There is pretty much zero truth to this rumor. NU isn't going anywhere, and if they were, the texa$$ teat conference would be the last place to go.
 
74Hunter said:
I agree. Many do think that way....until they visit. There is a lot more going on in Lincoln than a lot of people realize. Once those recruits get to town, it really changes their perspective. Is it everyone's cup of tea? Nope, but it's not the dusty little town in the middle of a corn field that many people think it is.

There is pretty much zero truth to this rumor. NU isn't going anywhere, and if they were, the texa$$ teat conference would be the last place to go.
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Yes, it is. I'm not saying Iowa City is so wonderful, but Lincoln is a dump. Been there way more times than I wanted.
 
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