Nebraska dumped from AAU

but what can they do to make it back? doesn't sound like a quick fix. i wonder how much pressure the big 10 can put on them or if there are some penalties built in for losing that distinction.

I went to the AAU website to review what a university has to do to gain membership. What I learned is that membership is by invitation only.

The original purpose of the AAU was to improve graduate level education in the US. There was no accreditation to be considered a college or university in the late 19th century. Americans had to go to Europe to get a recognized graduate or doctorate degree. The AAU succeeded in transforming graduate level education to where US top tier universities are some of the best in the world.

To retain membership the University must produce significant numbers of higher level degrees, the faculty must demonstrate academic research, and must win competitive research grants. There is a lot more to it and you can read about it if you go the their website.

It was interesting to find out that AAU institutions are unhappy with earmark grants because they are not competitively awarded. Getting one does not help your cause to retain or gain membership.
 
I think it is a mistake to think Nebraska would not have been admitted because of its AAU status. Obviously AAU members know what other members' status is.

I agree. Their acceptance into the B1G had more to do with football than academics.
 
I agree. Their acceptance into the B1G had more to do with football than academics.

Geez, do you think so? All of my illusions have been shattered! Not sure how I will go on...

In all seriousness, ever since the Big Ten braintrust unveiled the Legends and Leaders divisions on that ridiculous show it's been a nonstop run of bad news for the conference. Don't taunt the sports gods, Jim Delaney. They don't like it.
 
Ok, come on guys, yes this is not good for the conference. Neither is our crap this year or OH's sellgate. I would hope just like some other schools that the extra money Nebraska gets from joining the B1G will go along way in the next few years to improve their short comings. It is an embarrassment to the conf, but it is what it is. What do you want? You want the B1G to say hey if you all dont get back up to par, you cant play in any B1G ccg's? That would make us look really stupid. I do think the B1G should work with them as much as needed and give them reasons to improve, but it's not an easy fix.
Now for the most important part of this post, I hope Iowa stomps those "mentally challenged" huskers into the dirt.
 
A bit of history. When Michigan State became a member of the conference it was not a member of the AAU. It did not become an AAU member until 1964 after joining the conference in 1953. Purdue's AAU membership did not begin until 1958 after joining the conference in 1896. Also remember the Big Ten conference was formed before the AAU was formed. I think it is a mistake to think Nebraska would not have been admitted because of its AAU status. Obviously AAU members know what other members' status is.

I expect that Nebraska will begin work to attain membership once again.

Whoa - MSU, Purdue, (and Iowa State, for that matter), are superior academic schools to Nebraska. You can't just decide to "work to attain" membership.
 
That video is an awesome failure.

I especially liked when he asked when Nowledge University was switched to Nebraska? People took him seriously.....
Hilarious. Cherry picking questions from drunk fans. Ask 100 people the same question until you get the answer you are looking for. It could have been any group of people. Anyhow....

Research universities group ends UNL's membership

A letter from Harvey Perlman:

Dear Colleagues:

I have some disconcerting news. The membership of the Association of American Universities has voted to discontinue Nebraska's membership in that organization. We have known we were at risk of this for ten years, and successfully fought off a similar threat in 2000. I had hoped our extraordinary accomplishments and steep trajectory would have made us less vulnerable, but the AAU's approach to the review made this result inevitable. There was really nothing more you could have accomplished to forestall this result.

Here is what happened.

The AAU has a unique ranking system that ranks all research universities (including non-AAU schools). It consists of four criteria: research expenditures, National Academy members, faculty awards (from a specified list), and citations. An institution's productivity on each of these criteria is “normalized†by the number of tenure track faculty. Each institution is then ranked in accordance with these “normalized†criteria and the average ranking is the overall ranking for each institution. In accordance with this system, we were ranked last among AAU institutions. A number of non-AAU institutions received a higher rank than UNL and a higher rank than 14 other AAU institutions.

The ranking system put us at a disadvantage because of the way NU's system is organized with separate flagship and medical campuses. A large majority of AAU institutions have medical schools and are allowed to count medical research data. With UNMC's research included we would have had research expenditures above many other AAU institutions. Medical schools are both research intensive and also have a high ratio of research per tenure track faculty because many of their faculty who produce research are not “tenure track faculty†and thus not counted. Thus having a medical school is a disproportionate advantage in the AAU rankings that UNL did not enjoy.

The second disadvantage we face is that AAU inappropriately devalues agricultural research. It does not count any research funded by USDA (or by any private-sector interest) in the overall ranking. However, it does count agricultural faculty in the number used to normalize the rankings. The result is the ranking counts agriculture faculty but not the research they produce. Because of our strong commitment as a land-grant institution to serving the State of Nebraska, we are seriously disadvantaged within the AAU ranking system.

A third disadvantage we face is that we are a comprehensive university. Although the AAU purports to limit membership to “comprehensive†institutions, the normalization process favors those institutions narrowly focused on disciplines qualified for federal research dollars. In fact our total research expenditure is higher than two prominent, but highly specialized institutions.

We presented a data-based argument that demonstrated the specific ways that the ranking metrics distorted UNL's actual research accomplishments, but our argument did not prevail. The AAU Membership Policies, however, provide that when an institution is reviewed the review committee should engage in a second-stage process to make a “qualitative judgment about the mission, characteristics, and trajectory†of the institution.

I believe we had a strong case on the “second stage.†Among AAU institutions we have had the 7th largest percentage growth in research expenditures over the last decade. We have leadership or partnership roles in research with all of the highest ranked AAU institutions. We have faculty achievements that are not counted by AAU but are of equal merit. For example, no credit is given to a faculty who claims a Poet Laureate of the United States or the winner of the Bancroft Prize in History. We had thought our lack of a medical school, our land-grant obligations, and our AAU-leading research trajectory would be taken into account during this second stage. Unfortunately, the Review Committee refused to make any “qualitative judgment†that departed from the ranking and the membership went along.

There is within AAU a group of institutions who believe the organization should be smaller and that the rankings are an appropriate measure of institutional quality. We are not the only institution to be affected and if AAU continues with this effort others will be vulnerable. In the end, while we received strong support from almost all of our Big Ten colleagues, all of our former Big 12 colleagues, and other public research universities, it was not sufficient. There were other troubling events during this process, which I may write about in another forum.

So what does this mean for us? I do not see this development in any way impacting our momentum or diminishing our accomplishments. Although there is some reputational advantage to AAU membership, it is difficult to identify specific ways in which our membership was essential or influential in our current success. As University of Nebraska President James B. Milliken often says, we strive to be the best public university in the country as measured by the impact we have on our people and our state, and through them, the world. On that ranking, I think we are in the top tier.


Harvey
 
But, as of July 1st, not the same advantages.

Funny thing was last year Big 10 members were happy to add a PRESTIGIOUS academic institution to their conference. Really wish people would stop with the BS and just say its all about money, cause Nebraska adds nothing for academics.
 
Hilarious. Cherry picking questions from drunk fans. Ask 100 people the same question until you get the answer you are looking for. It could have been any group of people. Anyhow....

Ha it was the same ppl he asked the same questions to. So he found some idiots, for sure. Maybe some ppl got a lot of them right, but those ppl got a LOT of those questions wrong.

And they really didn't look all that drunk.
 
Does this mean now that the BIG 10 can finally start paying recruits and other unethical things the SEC is known for?
 
Below is a link related to research funds for 2008/2009 received by many, not all, AAU members. The article points out the number of universities getting research funds that are not AAU members and that their amounts exceed some AAU members.

Extended List: Research Financing of AAU Members and Nonmembers - Administration - The Chronicle of Higher Education

Getting research grants seemed to be important to remaining a member. Currently two non-member universities receive more dollars than Iowa, but in the case of Iowa State 28 non-members exceed its position.
 

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