Nate's line was not a loser line. 66%, 1 TD 0 INTs

[uihawk82]

Not his fault we lost, I dont think, we needed one more TD rather than that early FG but not his fault

 

[STILLBUSTER]

It’s certainly a joint effort by Nate and Bri-Ker-Fer.
It’s not his fault he’s being asked to execute ill-timed plays, at the most crucial times, that he’s just not skilled enough to execute.
Unfortunately, many of those plays are pretty basic passes that he misfires or holds waaay toooo long. Those mental blunders are on him.

Both happened at various times, today. BOTH faults occurred at the same time on both 2 point conversions.

 

[Caddy]

He contributed. He missed plenty of throws again. His line looked so good because he completed a bunch of 2-5 yard passes, and Fant had the long run. His accuracy is awful.

 

[NoBeer]

He contributed. He missed plenty of throws again. His line looked so good because he completed a bunch of 2-5 yard passes, and Fant had the long run. His accuracy is awful.

Yep, those stats don't match the eye test. He missed multiple wide open receivers again. He's still throwing behind receivers on a consistent basis. Sometimes they haul it in but he puts them in terrible spots.

I'll repeat what I said last week. Nate has the physical talent to make amazing throws under perfect conditions but the game moves to fast for him and he chokes.

 

[GotTimDodge]

He had Sarg wide open at the end there for at least 10, instead tried to put it somewhere with no room.

 

[GotTimDodge]

Yep, those stats don't match the eye test. He missed multiple wide open receivers again. He's still throwing behind receivers on a consistent basis. Sometimes they haul it in but he puts them in terrible spots.

I'll repeat what I said last week. Nate has the physical talent to make amazing throws under perfect conditions but the game moves to fast for him and he chokes.

Nate just isn't a gamer. At all.

 

[NoBeer]

Nate just isn't a gamer. At all.

Exactly. He's probably really good throwing a ball through a tire but under pressure he is god awful.

 

[hwk23]

Exactly. He's probably really good throwing a ball through a tire but under pressure he is god awful.

If you think this loss is on Stanley, you’re an idiot.

 

[hawkeyes87]

Exactly. He's probably really good throwing a ball through a tire but under pressure he is god awful.

"Tire" is iffy. Maybe you mean "barn door"??

 

[uihawk82]

He had Sarg wide open at the end there for at least 10, instead tried to put it somewhere with no room.

Yes I saw that and I called him out on that if that is what you want to call it. But if he makes a few more completinos he completes at a 80% completion rate. Some people in the game thread said he was converting less than 50% which is why I posted it.

Nate has a problem like you say of not seeing the really open receivers, he seems to zero in or predetermine his throws and sometimes he throws too early

 

[NoBeer]

Nate has a problem like you say of not seeing the really open receivers, he seems to zero in or predetermine his throws and sometimes he throws too early

And behind the receivers

 

[PCHawk]

I tell you one thing, there have been a lot of makeable plays this year on offense. That says a lot about Brian. Our players have definitely been put in a position to make plays this year. If Stanley had average D1 accuracy we probably have 1 loss this year and are on our way to indy. In years past, there weren't even plays to be made.

 

[lightning1]

If you think this loss is on Stanley, you’re an idiot.

It's on the OL and the coaching staff.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

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Not his fault we lost, I dont think, we needed one more TD rather than that early FG but not his fault

as they say...statistics are for losers. He hits an open B Smith on that 2-pt attempt it's a different game. He also missed a lot of wide open guys (some noted above) which could have changed the game.

All on Nate..of course not. Our D backs had a rough day and our punter didn't help out either.. But Nate's not free of blame simply because his stat line looks OK.

 

[hawkeyes87]

Lots of woulda / coulda / shoulda's all around, to be sure...

But, that's not a dominating PU defense, and you'd certainly like to see your qb put up ore than 1 TD pass...

 

[hwk23]

I tell you one thing, there have been a lot of makeable plays this year on offense. That says a lot about Brian. Our players have definitely been put in a position to make plays this year. If Stanley had average D1 accuracy we probably have 1 loss this year and are on our way to indy. In years past, there weren't even plays to be made.

That has a lot to do with the targets. Against PSU, Stanley was 16/32 with Fant, Hockenson and B Smith in the game (or 2 TEs) but only 2/17 when Easley, ISM, and Groeneweg were in (any two or all three at the same time). Those three are too small against good competition, especially when more than one are on the field at the same time.

 

[uihawk82]

That has a lot to do with the targets. Against PSU, Stanley was 16/32 with Fant, Hockenson and B Smith in the game (or 2 TEs) but only 2/17 when Easley, ISM, and Groeneweg were in (any two or all three at the same time). Those three are too small against good competition, especially when more than one are on the field at the same time.

interesting deep dive into the stats

 

[LurkinGopher]

See, that’s the issue. Stanley has an alright day and everybody gives him a pass.

Stanley plays well against the weak teams, chokes against the Wisconsin, Penn State...now average against Purdue and you give him a pass. Those stats versus Purdue are the bare minimum expected. What’s not identified are the important throws he continues to miss and the wide open receivers he doesn’t even see. Or, the first down run he guts out on 3rd and 12. Too slow on the field and in the head.

Brian Ferentz is a good OC; he runs plays to get easy throws for Stanley and the receiving group is getting open. All Iowa needs is a good, accurate, play making QB. Believe me, I’d hate to see Iowa with a McSorely type QB - you’d win the Big10.

Bottom line: Stanley doesn’t have it. He’s not a play maker. Meanwhile, Ryan Boyle gets away and has been MVFC a player of the week 3 times and should get it again this week after 7 TDs win today, 20-27, 200 yds passing and 200 yards rushing. The kid’s a winner, he’s a got it.

 

[hawkeyes87]

The kid’s a winner, he’s a got it.

Speaking of winners, how 'bout those Illini?

Beat the shit out of the Goofs, putting up 55 points ( only 5 less than they scored in the previous 3 games combined )

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

See, that’s the issue. Stanley has an alright day and everybody gives him a pass.

Stanley plays well against the weak teams, chokes against the Wisconsin, Penn State...now average against Purdue and you give him a pass. Those stats versus Purdue are the bare minimum expected. What’s not identified are the important throws he continues to miss and the wide open receivers he doesn’t even see. Or, the first down run he guts out on 3rd and 12. Too slow on the field and in the head.

Brian Ferentz is a good OC; he runs plays to get easy throws for Stanley and the receiving group is getting open. All Iowa needs is a good, accurate, play making QB. Believe me, I’d hate to see Iowa with a McSorely type QB - you’d win the Big10.

Bottom line: Stanley doesn’t have it. He’s not a play maker. Meanwhile, Ryan Boyle gets away and has been MVFC a player of the week 3 times and should get it again this week after 7 TDs win today, 20-27, 200 yds passing and 200 yards rushing. The kid’s a winner, he’s a got it.

It's weird you are here.