Nate Stanley to the Vikings in the 7th Round, Pick 244 Overall.

[uihawk82]

Well...it's kind of hard to evaluate a rookie who takes over the starting QB for a team with a make shift offensive line and limited offensive weapons like CJ did with San Fran. Most rookies playing in that environment isn't going to do well. Jimmy G. came to SF with three years playing behind one of the best QBs in NFL history. He had a three year learning curve. You can't compare them...it's not fair to CJ.

Now, if you put CJ as a starter now with the offensive line and weapons they have now in SF...it's a much different ball game and I think things would be terribly different. He will get his chance.

I think in CJ's 2nd year with the 9ers he won a couple of games as the starter. He is no slouch but just needs a chance and lots of reps with 4-6 starts to see and show that he has the right stuff.

 

[HawkGold]

Totally agree with you about Banks. Some of it might have been the question "is he a one year wonder" vs having a couple more years of tape on him. But Banks made all the throws, was very accurate, could have been Mike Vick before there was a Mike Vick as I cant remember when Vick was a rookie.

Just hard to square this since you would think an NFL team would take a 7th round pick chance on a QB with low salary implications but high skills and athleticism traits.

Banks was a raw talent. He did what he did based on speed/quickness. That advantage closes down in the NFL. He had a weak arm. He was undisciplined. His CFL stats weren't impressive.

He was my favorite Hawk QB ever. He should have been a 2 year starter.

 

[uihawk82]

This didn't seem to hurt Tua this year, but I stumbled across this list of Wonderlic scores: https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/. Both Brad and Tagovailoa clock in with 13's.

Ah, that could be a problem as a lot of NFL teams really look at that score maybe more for QBs. I remember when Brian Griese was first with the Broncos and the TV announcers would always bring up his upper 40's Wonderlic score.

 

[uihawk82]

Banks was a raw talent. He did what he did based on speed/quickness. That advantage closes down in the NFL. He had a weak arm. He was undisciplined. His CFL stats weren't impressive.

He was my favorite Hawk QB ever. He should have been a 2 year starter.

I dont know about the weak arm?? He didnt have an Elway/Aaron Rodgers type arm but he threw a lot of out patterns to his receivers that beat defenders to the angle and let the receiver make a move and go for big yardage. CJ Jones and Mo Brown especially were able to haul those in and turn them upfield because the ball got there in time and yes those guys had some speed. I would say he had an above average arm especially with his long pass accuracy that 2002 year which was really good.

 

[smhawk]

I dont know about the weak arm?? He didnt have an Elway/Aaron Rodgers type arm but he threw a lot of out patterns to his receivers that beat defenders to the angle and let the receiver make a move and go for big yardage. CJ Jones and Mo Brown especially were able to haul those in and turn them upfield because the ball got there in time and yes those guys had some speed. I would say he had an above average arm especially with his long pass accuracy that 2002 year which was really good.

Right. Just rewatch that iowa @ minesota game with banks. Plenty of examples of a strong arm. Sometimes players just dont get a fair shake in the evaluation process, or there is simply a very tough pool of talent to compete complete against.

 

[HawkGold]

Right. Just rewatch that iowa @ minesota game with banks. Plenty of examples of a strong arm. Sometimes players just dont get a fair shake in the evaluation process, or there is simply a very tough pool of talent to compete complete against.

Quick release on a rope....no.

Teams had to play him honest. They dared him to make throws. Not an NFL arm. His feet kept him in the cfl as a back up. Still my fav qb.