More evidence to support my 2013 Iowa vs Isu prediction.......................

Hawknick said:
Iowa does have a lot of talent returning that will give them an advantage if they work hard, and we do our best to support them. There are also many incoming players that have the potential to contribute.



On offense there are 3 experienced running backs are returning. All the players that saw significant playing time at receiving last year are returning with the exception of Davis.(There's a reason we targeted so many receivers in this last class) Many incoming players are expected to contribute in the receiving game. Four experienced and productive tight ends return(Iowa did little to nothing with them last year. What makes you think this will changes, especially given we're looking a a new OC). Iowa will have plenty of depth for 2 oven 3 tight end sets. The QB candidates all have impressive resumes and talent(Not one has thrown a collegiate pass. Not one. Think about that). Most importantly all but 2 of the major contributors on the O-line are back. These include one of the Big 10s most dominate tackles in Brandon Scherff.



The defensive line returns 5 players that have contributed as starters. Leading these players will be Alvis and Trinca-Pasat both have proven to be impact players.(You can't be serious. Alvis is about as far from an impact player on the D line than Iowa has had in probably the last decade) The line will be bolstered by two talented and very large redshirt freshmen. Iowa returns all of its linebackers including some of the Big 10s leading tacklers(Given their play last year and our defensive scheme, expect more of the same (which is mediocre play). There are also many defensive backs returning to be led by Law and Lowery. Iowa has some of its best young talent is also coming into its own as DBs.

On special teams, returning starts at kicker, punter and long snapper. There is lots of incoming athletes that should help with coverage. Iowa also returns that conferences leading kick-off returner in Jordan Cotton.


All around this team appears to have what it takes to be successful. Let’s give them all the support they need to make that happen.
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I like you're optimism, but I'm afraid you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Every team in the conference will be better next year. Don't forget Wisky and OSU are back on the schedule next year. The team was flat out terrible last year. I think we'll improve (partly b/c it's hard to me any worse than we were last year), but I'm certainly not expecting anything. A bowl game would be a nice surprise IMO.
 


ISU is going to defend Iowa in the exact same way they did this past year at kinnick. they're going to stop the run and force the QB to beat them. considering your SENIOR quarterback couldn't do that last year, I have my doubts that a freshman or 1st year kid with 1 game under his belt vs an FCS opponent (or whoever iowa plays 1st next year) will be able to do anything more than Vandy was able to do last year.

Under KF Iowa has really only came into Jack Trice one time and just rolled ISU, and that was Rhoads' 1st year and Iowa had a pretty good team. plus, the greg davis horizontal offense is a defensive coordinator's wet dream, especially when most of the skill position players on the team running that offense are unproven.

ISU will win, likely in another close game. it will be followed there after by threads on this site about "how the ISU game is a lose lose for Iowa and the series should be canceled" , "KF doesn't care anymore, he's just milking his contract" , "gary bart a should be fired" , and "ISU fans were mean to me".
 


tanabs said:
ISU is going to defend Iowa in the exact same way they did this past year at kinnick. they're going to stop the run and force the QB to beat them. considering your SENIOR quarterback couldn't do that last year, I have my doubts that a freshman or 1st year kid with 1 game under his belt vs an FCS opponent (or whoever iowa plays 1st next year) will be able to do anything more than Vandy was able to do last year.

Under KF Iowa has really only came into Jack Trice one time and just rolled ISU, and that was Rhoads' 1st year and Iowa had a pretty good team. plus, the greg davis horizontal offense is a defensive coordinator's wet dream, especially when most of the skill position players on the team running that offense are unproven.

ISU will win, likely in another close game. it will be followed there after by threads on this site about "how the ISU game is a lose lose for Iowa and the series should be canceled" , "KF doesn't care anymore, he's just milking his contract" , "gary bart a should be fired" , and "ISU fans were mean to me".
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Well just think, the close win over Iowa should propel you to your 4th consecutive losing season!! I can only imagine how you'll commemorate such an accomplishment. Coin? Parade?
 


I think we win. Either way though tanabs, isu is historically one of the worse programs in college football history. We have the series lead two to one over you, one qb that has as as many bowl wins as your entire program, a streak of 15 in a row at one time, and in and on and on.
I'm happy on this side.
 


SheagleHawk said:
Well just think, the close win over Iowa should propel you to your 4th consecutive losing season!! I can only imagine how you'll commemorate such an accomplishment. Coin? Parade?
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lots of butthurt in this post. I'd be butthurt to though if my team had the easiest imaginable schedule in the softest major conference in the country and couldn't make a bowl game.
 


HawkeyeMHA said:
I think we win. Either way though tanabs, isu is historically one of the worse programs in college football history. We have the series lead two to one over you, one qb that has as as many bowl wins as your entire program, a streak of 15 in a row at one time, and in and on and on.
I'm happy on this side.
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right. ISU is bad historically. but history doesn't change the fact that ISU is every bit as good of a program right now as Iowa, if not better. results, recruiting, head to head, and stats would all agree.
 






Yep.

Iowa was bad last year, epically bad, 1971 / 1-11 level bad. ISU was better, in every stat, head to head, recruiting(depatable but I will give it to ya). 2011 Iowa was only slightly above average, not very good but not awful. 2010, extremely dissappointing - and I do lay some of this at the hands of the staff.

While you are absolutely correct, ISU is every bit as good, even better than Iowa right now, I would use caution, as Iowa is at or is very close to it's historical floor, ISU is at or is very close to it's historical pinnacle....and only a couple games and a few points separate the two.

Enjoy your success.

Please don't play the "conference" card, it typically is cyclical and rendered useless about every 2-3 years.

Good Day Sir.
 


tanabs said:
right. ISU is bad historically. but history doesn't change the fact that ISU is every bit as good of a program right now as Iowa, if not better. results, recruiting, head to head, and stats would all agree.
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Yep, you are as good as us right now, which is terrible for us. You are correct. Your good is in fact equal to our terrible. Good point
 


tanabs said:
ISU is going to defend Iowa in the exact same way they did this past year at kinnick. they're going to stop the run and force the QB to beat them. considering your SENIOR quarterback couldn't do that last year, I have my doubts that a freshman or 1st year kid with 1 game under his belt vs an FCS opponent (or whoever iowa plays 1st next year) will be able to do anything more than Vandy was able to do last year.

Under KF Iowa has really only came into Jack Trice one time and just rolled ISU, and that was Rhoads' 1st year and Iowa had a pretty good team. plus, the greg davis horizontal offense is a defensive coordinator's wet dream, especially when most of the skill position players on the team running that offense are unproven.

ISU will win, likely in another close game. it will be followed there after by threads on this site about "how the ISU game is a lose lose for Iowa and the series should be canceled" , "KF doesn't care anymore, he's just milking his contract" , "gary bart a should be fired" , and "ISU fans were mean to me".
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Good commentary, but you seem to leave out the fact that youre defense loses a ton of talent. So, no matter how you defend anybody this year, it will be more difficult because you simply do not have much talent on defense this year.

This is the main reason why I think Iowa will beat you guys this year.

FreedComanche
 


tanabs said:
right. ISU is bad historically. but history doesn't change the fact that ISU is every bit as good of a program right now as Iowa, if not better. results, recruiting, head to head, and stats would all agree.
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Heard the exact same thing back in 2000 and 2001. How did that turn out for ISU?



tanabs said:
lots of butthurt in this post. I'd be butthurt to though if my team had the easiest imaginable schedule in the softest major conference in the country and couldn't make a bowl game.
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You must have been butt hurt your entire life, excluding the that last couple years then.....
 


tanabs said:
right. ISU is bad historically. but history doesn't change the fact that ISU is every bit as good of a program right now as Iowa, if not better. results, recruiting, head to head, and stats would all agree.
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Interesting. If you are talking 2013, I think you are wrong. You know you'll be the worst team in the big 12. And think about this. Iowa was very bad last year and you barely beat them with superior talent. You guys were supposed to be good last year and didn't even have a winning season.

As far as conferences, no doubt big 10 was terrible last year, but I totally don't think you would have had a winning season in it last year.

It's up to you, but I'd shut up because of the train wreck that's right ahead of you. You guys will be as bad as New Mexico this year. You won't be able to run the ball or stop the run. Now that is the sign of a very talent poor team.

FreedComanche
 


FreedComanche said:
Interesting. If you are talking 2013, I think you are wrong. You know you'll be the worst team in the big 12. And think about this. Iowa was very bad last year and you barely beat them with superior talent. You guys were supposed to be good last year and didn't even have a winning season.

As far as conferences, no doubt big 10 was terrible last year, but I totally don't think you would have had a winning season in it last year.

It's up to you, but I'd shut up because of the train wreck that's right ahead of you. You guys will be as bad as New Mexico this year. You won't be able to run the ball or stop the run. Now that is the sign of a very talent poor team.

FreedComanche
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I love the thread Freed. I just don't see it either. Rhoads has yet to win more than 3 conference games in any of his 4 years......I'm not sure what makes ISU fan think that he will get better losing two NFL linebackers, and a ton of others.
 


tanabs said:
lots of butthurt in this post. I'd be butthurt to though if my team had the easiest imaginable schedule in the softest major conference in the country and couldn't make a bowl game.
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Butthurt?!? I'm not the one deflecting from the fact that success for my program equals 4 straight losing seasons. You Clowns sure are funny.
 


deanvogs said:
I love the thread Freed. I just don't see it either. Rhoads has yet to win more than 3 conference games in any of his 4 years......I'm not sure what makes ISU fan think that he will get better losing two NFL linebackers, and a ton of others.
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But.....but.....our schedule!!!!!
 


SheagleHawk said:
Butthurt?!? I'm not the one deflecting from the fact that success for my program equals 4 straight losing seasons. You Clowns sure are funny.
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I get why they are excited. They have a good guy as coach who really seems to want to be there. At times, he wins when he's not supposed to. He's very likable. But.........................it's next to impossible to bring real good talent to Ames every year. I love Rhoads too, but as long as they are in the big 12 they won't have winning seasons.

FreedComanche
 




FreedComanche said:
I get why they are excited. They have a good guy as coach who really seems to want to be there. At times, he wins when he's not supposed to. He's very likable. But.........................it's next to impossible to bring real good talent to Ames every year. I love Rhoads too, but as long as they are in the big 12 they won't have winning seasons.

FreedComanche
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but it's easy to bring real good talent to Iowa City every year?

signed,

"we will not be recruiting the state of florida anymore"
 


tanabs said:
but it's easy to bring real good talent to Iowa City every year?

signed,

"we will not be recruiting the state of florida anymore"
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Nope, I think you know that nobody thinks that. I believe it's a brain dead move for Iowa to focus on nothing more than 8 hours from Iowa City. I've gone on at length about this in other threads. And if Iowa continues to take this stance in recruiting, I think that Rhoads will overtake Iowa in the talent advantage eventually.

The edge that Iowa historically has over ISU and still has is they have much more of a winning tradition in terms of conference wins and bowl game wins. That's why ususally the talent advantage has been with Iowa. It wasn't last year. But it will correct itself this year.

Look, I want this game to be a good one this year. I don't want a blowout. But as everyone knows, a football team is only as good as its line play. This year, Iowa will have a good interior on both lines, Isu will not.

FreedComanche

 


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