Minnesota and PJ Fleck Recruiting and Iowa Recruiting.

MelroseHawkins

MelroseHawkins

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Being the used car salesman that he is, I was surprised to see he has no 4* recruits. Not one. He has 20 3* recruits but none over 3*. He does have a 26th ranked class at the moment but I would think he'd be able to sell a couple 4*.

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

I am really liking the pipeline that the Iowa assistants are developing, in particular the Indy area as well as the Georgia/Alabama areas. It finally seems that Iowa has some formidable assistant coaches and go-getters pertaining to recruiting. They seem to pound-the-pavement pretty good. They are doing a good job of developing relationships early on with recruits which I believe has changed over the past couple years.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
Being the used car salesman that he is, I was surprised to see he has no 4* recruits. Not one. He has 20 3* recruits but none over 3*. He does have a 26th ranked class at the moment but I would think he'd be able to sell a couple 4*.

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

I am really liking the pipeline that the Iowa assistants are developing, in particular the Indy area as well as the Georgia/Alabama areas. It finally seems that Iowa has some formidable assistant coaches and go-getters pertaining to recruiting. They seem to pound-the-pavement pretty good. They are doing a good job of developing relationships early on with recruits which I believe has changed over the past couple years.
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Nebraska at #72? Sweet
 
MelroseHawkins said:
Being the used car salesman that he is, I was surprised to see he has no 4* recruits. Not one. He has 20 3* recruits but none over 3*. He does have a 26th ranked class at the moment but I would think he'd be able to sell a couple 4*.

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

I am really liking the pipeline that the Iowa assistants are developing, in particular the Indy area as well as the Georgia/Alabama areas. It finally seems that Iowa has some formidable assistant coaches and go-getters pertaining to recruiting. They seem to pound-the-pavement pretty good. They are doing a good job of developing relationships early on with recruits which I believe has changed over the past couple years.
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Georgia is loaded with talent. There are a lot of schools with rich football histories nearby, but I think they will let out "diamonds in the rough." Tennessee, Auburn, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, etc. are all swinging for the fences on recruiting trying to get the same guys that Bama and Clemson are going after and it should leave behind guys that are good enough to be serious players in the Big Ten after a year of development. I mean Troy beat Nebraska with a roster full of Alabama and Georgia guys who all got left behind in the SEC/ACC recruiting process.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Georgia is loaded with talent. There are a lot of schools with rich football histories nearby, but I think they will let out "diamonds in the rough." Tennessee, Auburn, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, etc. are all swinging for the fences on recruiting trying to get the same guys that Bama and Clemson are going after and it should leave behind guys that are good enough to be serious players in the Big Ten after a year of development. I mean Troy beat Nebraska with a roster full of Alabama and Georgia guys who all got left behind in the SEC/ACC recruiting process.
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Freaking Clemson is just crushing it. Five 5*! Are you kidding me?! The next dominant team for years to come, apparently.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Georgia is loaded with talent. There are a lot of schools with rich football histories nearby, but I think they will let out "diamonds in the rough." Tennessee, Auburn, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, etc. are all swinging for the fences on recruiting trying to get the same guys that Bama and Clemson are going after and it should leave behind guys that are good enough to be serious players in the Big Ten after a year of development. I mean Troy beat Nebraska with a roster full of Alabama and Georgia guys who all got left behind in the SEC/ACC recruiting process.
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They beat L$U the previous season, as well. The talent is definitely down South and out West. Yes, there is talent in the Midwest, Northwest, et. al., but the year-round programs aren't in most of those places. In Florida, if you want to play college football, you "do" football year-round. No more Summer baseball, or basketball. Maybe track, but these days Spring football is as big in Florida high schools as it is on college campuses, including scrimmage-format games against other schools.
 
Alabama year after year just loads up. I think this year they have 21 recruits and 17 are either 5 or 4 stars. Last year, Alabama had 27 recruits...and 26 were either four star or five star players. When you factor injuries, transfers, and kids who don't make it...they are guaranteed to have the deepest talent in the country every freaking year.

It's the same argument I have with my wife, a Duke grad. You have to temper how good of a game coach Coach K is, when you have such a talent advantage and depth advantage over every team you play. I'm not saying Coach K isn't a top coach...but if you put Fran McCaffery with Dukes talent his teams would be winning 136 - 132 every game.:)
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
They beat L$U the previous season, as well. The talent is definitely down South and out West. Yes, there is talent in the Midwest, Northwest, et. al., but the year-round programs aren't in most of those places. In Florida, if you want to play college football, you "do" football year-round. No more Summer baseball, or basketball. Maybe track, but these days Spring football is as big in Florida high schools as it is on college campuses, including scrimmage-format games against other schools.
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Bruh, they start 7 on 7 camps at 6 years old in Georgia. The weather and population density in Iowa make something like that impossible.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Bruh, they start 7 on 7 camps at 6 years old in Georgia. The weather and population density in Iowa make something like that impossible.
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Exactly. Much as people run on about soccer, Pop Warner football is alive and well in Florida. Hell, Pop Warner cheerleading is huge here.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
Exactly. Much as people run on about soccer, Pop Warner football is alive and well in Florida. Hell, Pop Warner cheerleading is huge here.
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When I was up in Chicago, a substantial percentage of parents were adamant that they would not let their kids play football, but in the South, that talk is heresy. Soccer is popular in the South and there seem to be games pretty much all winter and spring, but it pales in comparison to the participation of football. If America gets good at soccer, it will have to be driven by the north and west coast. Problem is, America is a giant country and they can't identify all the star kids at 10 and put them all together, so America will never be as good as countries like Germany, Brazil, Italy, etc.
 
okeefe4prez said:
When I was up in Chicago, a substantial percentage of parents were adamant that they would not let their kids play football, but in the South, that talk is heresy. Soccer is popular in the South and there seem to be games pretty much all winter and spring, but it pales in comparison to the participation of football. If America gets good at soccer, it will have to be driven by the north and west coast. Problem is, America is a giant country and they can't identify all the star kids at 10 and put them all together, so America will never be as good as countries like Germany, Brazil, Italy, etc.
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That, and kids, themselves, have to be interested in soccer. I don't care who you are, football is a funner sport to play than soccer. Even kids in Chicago area, where I grew up, ditched soccer once they could play football.
 
pekurhawk said:
I bought my last Yugo from PJ Fleck, piece of shit fell apart.
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How were the airbags?

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WinOneThisCentury said:
Alabama year after year just loads up. I think this year they have 21 recruits and 17 are either 5 or 4 stars. Last year, Alabama had 27 recruits...and 26 were either four star or five star players. When you factor injuries, transfers, and kids who don't make it...they are guaranteed to have the deepest talent in the country every freaking year.

It's the same argument I have with my wife, a Duke grad. You have to temper how good of a game coach Coach K is, when you have such a talent advantage and depth advantage over every team you play. I'm not saying Coach K isn't a top coach...but if you put Fran McCaffery with Dukes talent his teams would be winning 136 - 132 every game.:)
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On your 2nd point, I've often wondered how Ferentz would do at a Alabama or Ohio St.

Having quality depth at positions is a huge advantage.
 
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MelroseHawkins said:
On your 2nd point, I've often wondered how Ferentz would do at a Alabama or Ohio St.

Having quality depth at positions is a huge advantage.
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Probably same as good years at Iowa. 11 or 12 win ceiling with a BCS caliber game other than the championship as the high water mark. You've gotta be a helluva gambler to win the title games and do crazy stuff like pull out Jalen for Tua at halftime and run well timed onside kicks and stuff. You can't play conservative and then rely on your defense to win it in the last minute in those really big games.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Georgia is loaded with talent. There are a lot of schools with rich football histories nearby, but I think they will let out "diamonds in the rough." Tennessee, Auburn, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, etc. are all swinging for the fences on recruiting trying to get the same guys that Bama and Clemson are going after and it should leave behind guys that are good enough to be serious players in the Big Ten after a year of development. I mean Troy beat Nebraska with a roster full of Alabama and Georgia guys who all got left behind in the SEC/ACC recruiting process.
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They recruit and hire to win a national title.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
Alabama year after year just loads up. I think this year they have 21 recruits and 17 are either 5 or 4 stars. Last year, Alabama had 27 recruits...and 26 were either four star or five star players. When you factor injuries, transfers, and kids who don't make it...they are guaranteed to have the deepest talent in the country every freaking year.

It's the same argument I have with my wife, a Duke grad. You have to temper how good of a game coach Coach K is, when you have such a talent advantage and depth advantage over every team you play. I'm not saying Coach K isn't a top coach...but if you put Fran McCaffery with Dukes talent his teams would be winning 136 - 132 every game.:)
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Krzyczrewskyczreskweskrzki is a walking corpse. You can hear that his brain is going, it's a matter of a couple years and his replacement will be on the bench
 
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