seriously, why do we have a tie in with a bowl in Detroit. How is going their in December, any sort of reward?
Miller: Bowl Projections from 11-7
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seriously, why do we have a tie in with a bowl in Detroit. How is going their in December, any sort of reward?
JonDMiller
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I doubt Iowa ever plays in the Detroit bowl...and probably rarely will fall below Insight, given the Hawkeye fan reputation for travel.
I agree, but I would be interested in seeing any of the big 10 teams ticket sales for that game. I am guessing pretty low.
JonDMiller
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I think a B10 team has played in that bowl only two or three times since they began the affiliation
MissouriHerk
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I like your thought here, but I'm curious. Do we know why in fact that the Orange picked Iowa? I think sometimes the bowl representative says something to justify a pick based on actual on-the-field play, head-to-head, etc. but is that the real reason? Was it the traveling fan base? I know Penn St. has a good travel base as well, so I'm tempted to believe the Orange Bowl's statement that they chose on head-to-head, or more accurately, that the Big Ten office, powerful as it is, and even handed as it is with the member institutions, pressured the Orange to pick Iowa over PSU. I think this is the real truth. I wonder if this same pressure would work with Nokia if we win out (and can't go to the Rose b/c Wisky does too). Thoughts?
JonDMiller
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I interviewed Larry Gautier, one of the head honchos on the Orange committee, the day of Snowmagedon last December. He said Iowa beat Penn State. He said picking Iowa over Penn State was "the right thing to do" because they earned it head to head, and they travel well. So does Penn State.
I also had a chance to chat with Larry on the sidelines of the Iowa-PSU game this year, and asked him about this again, and he gave me the same answer. At that time, he said they'd take Iowa again in a second, but felt they wouldnt get the chance.
I have been involved in the bowl travel business since the 2002 Orange Bowl. I have contacts at each of the primary bowl games the Big Ten is involved with, and the people I work with on the bowls have even better contacts, and we share information throughout the fall.
Some people just don't realize how Iowa is viewed by the bowls. Iowa is one of the ten 'golden' schools as it relates to bowls. So is Wisconsin, PSU and Ohio State. Nebraska will prove to be another competitor for the bowls if all things are equal, and they will probably win the toss ups for the next four or five years because the Outback and Cap One have not had a chance to get their fans down there.
Michigan is a plum when they are in a major bowl game, but not so much when its Outback.
Teams in the B10 with bad traveling reps: Minnesota, Michigan State. Indiana has no cache at all. NW isn't that bad, however.
I think if Iowa wins out, which many of the 'major' outlets are not predicting to happen, and if MSU loses one more, it will be Iowa to the Sugar as the at large selection.
I read somewhere the other day, I think it was BCS guru, predicting the Sugar to take Boise as an at large over. I think that's crazy.
GravyJones
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name dropper
MissouriHerk
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Jon,
Very interesting to hear your conversations with Larry G. If Iowa wins out, why do you think that MSU needs to lose one more for Iowa to get to the Sugar? If head to head is the factor, we already have that over MSU. Is it overall record that will be attractive to the Sugar? Even with MSU's lackluster travel base?
Snakehawks
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I think Wisconsin will lose at Michigan...We beat Ohio State..and Sparty loses at Penn St. Of course all wishful thinking....but hey, I'm a hawk fan...Gotta hope for the best!
manofthehour
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Iowa- Toliet Bowl
H8IAST8
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You're 0-3
hawkeyescott
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Larry is a smart guy, the Orange won't have a chance to get Iowa this year.
