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NikeHawk21

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I've heard a lot rumblings around here about Connor and Pat coming in and being big time players and I was interested to see where that is coming from. I think Connor was originally ranked as a top 25 player in ESPN rankings as a Freshman (that ranking is usually a joke), and fans around here really latched onto that. I believe Connor is a rated a 3 star SF and just outside the top 100 on 247.

Personally, I don't see either of these two coming in and being impact players, I haven't seen a ton of Patrick. I've watched Connor's most recent highlights and to me he doesn't pass the eye test, as being a big time college player.

I'm not one of the guys around here calling for Fran to be fired, I think he's done a great job turning this program around. I'm excited to see our tourney run this year and really excited for how athletic we will be next year.

My question is (and maybe some have seen more of these two) how good do you think these two are? And where do you see them playing at Iowa?
 
have you seen them play in person to come to the conclusion that they do not pass your eyeball test?
 
NikeHawk21 said:
I've heard a lot rumblings around here about Connor and Pat coming in and being big time players and I was interested to see where that is coming from. I think Connor was originally ranked as a top 25 player in ESPN rankings as a Freshman (that ranking is usually a joke), and fans around here really latched onto that. I believe Connor is a rated a 3 star SF and just outside the top 100 on 247.

Personally, I don't see either of these two coming in and being impact players, I haven't seen a ton of Patrick. I've watched Connor's most recent highlights and to me he doesn't pass the eye test, as being a big time college player.

I'm not one of the guys around here calling for Fran to be fired, I think he's done a great job turning this program around. I'm excited to see our tourney run this year and really excited for how athletic we will be next year.

My question is (and maybe some have seen more of these two) how good do you think these two are? And where do you see them playing at Iowa?
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There's no way Conner is playing SF. Conner is playing PG. The only thing I can't say is whether or not he can keep other D-1 PGs in front of him on defense. Patrick has a lot of skill but he's skinny.
 
damnfinn said:
have you seen them play in person to come to the conclusion that they do not pass your eyeball test?
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I've seen the highlight videos only, which is how I evaluate all incoming players. It doesn't appear he has the foot speed to me to beat many guys off the dribble or keep guys in front. I was mostly looking to hear others thoughts that have seen him play or have seen or heard more.
 
Said all along I wasn't big on Connor but can't wait to see how Pat ends up because he's the best 8th grader I've seen in person
 
mopkins said:
I bet you were a shredded specimen when you were 14 years old
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No. I was fighting fly weight. But I hit the weights and got much bigger. I'm not trashing the kid. He's probably got more skill in 9th grade than a lot of high school SRs have. Relax.
 
SteveGarvey said:
UCLA fans seem to want Alford fired, in part because he plays his son a lot. Sure hope Fran's sons are legit.
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It's a potentially brutal situation that coaches and their sons walk into. If your son plays like Doug Mcdermott, it's no problem. If your son plays like Bryce Alford, it wouldn't be a problem at New Mexico where he would be a star but at UCLA, he's taking a roster spot for the next Reggie Miller.
In fairness to UCLA fans, Bryce plays no defense. When your son scores 16pts but gives up 16pts+.....how is he helping the cause? And he plays more minutes than anyone else on the team. Alfraud is the biggest egomaniac in coaching. He won't sit his son for playing horrible defense. If Fran goes the same route (refusing to recognize and discipline accordingly), his sons will bare the brunt of an angry fan base.
 
WindsorHawk said:
Connor has a very high basketball IQ and a good skill set IMO. I haven't seen Pat play so I have no comment.
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I saw him play 2 games in person. I thought he had a D-1 skill set already. He could dribble and pass the ball well. He had an outside shot. He doesn't have a D1 body yet but what do you expect.
 
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