hawkeye2188
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Completely agree with you.
McCaffery Statement on Brust
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GravyJones
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My first guess would be that it was a comment on his upcoming playing time.
TheNebraskaHawk
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I do not think that FM has failed at anything...he can not decide whether he wants to go back after Larson and Brust or if he wants to look elsewhere, he has the openings to be filled and can guarantee playing time...not a bad thing either way.
I really don't think this is a big deal.
We want the kids coming in/staying to be comfortable that they made the right decision. If this isn't the right place for them, then they should look elsewhere. If, after talking with our staff, the decide to come back, then they will know this is the place they want to be. The last thing I want is kids feeling like they have to come to Iowa even though they don't want to.
In my opinion, FM is doing the right thing. Laying it on the line, right off the bat, so the kids are either fully behind being here with this staff, or moving on to someplace that they will be comfortable. It sucks losing players/recruits, but it has to be done. IMO - Lick would have been a lot better off if he had done this when he came in.
We may take a step back now (not much further to step back, though), but in the long run it will pay off.
We want the kids coming in/staying to be comfortable that they made the right decision. If this isn't the right place for them, then they should look elsewhere. If, after talking with our staff, the decide to come back, then they will know this is the place they want to be. The last thing I want is kids feeling like they have to come to Iowa even though they don't want to.
In my opinion, FM is doing the right thing. Laying it on the line, right off the bat, so the kids are either fully behind being here with this staff, or moving on to someplace that they will be comfortable. It sucks losing players/recruits, but it has to be done. IMO - Lick would have been a lot better off if he had done this when he came in.
We may take a step back now (not much further to step back, though), but in the long run it will pay off.
hawkeye12345
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Next man in.
tm3308
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I don't agree with that. Both Larson and Brust are out of state kids, and they need to find the best fit for them, and with the coaching change, that may no longer be Iowa. They can't legally talk to other schools without getting their release first. They're being smart, and I respect any kid who understands that they need to make the right choice as far as where to play and go to school. It's one of the biggest decisions of their lives, and they should carefully weigh the pros and cons.
Whereas Marble is out of state as well, his dad is a Hawkeye legend. He has a strong connection here already. And McCabe is a kid just like me: we were born to be Hawkeyes. The only difference is I don't have the kind of athletic ability to play baseball here at the UI. But everyone familiar with me has known since the time I was little, that I was going to come to school here. I didn't even apply at other schools. I applied for Iowa, got accepted, and that was just how things were supposed to be.
As much as it will suck next year not to have either of them, it only means more open spots for guys that fit Fran's system.
I am not saying that Burst or Larson aren't great players but it will allow the new coaching staff to get guys that they want and feel fit their system instead of what was already here or signed to be here.
I am not saying that Burst or Larson aren't great players but it will allow the new coaching staff to get guys that they want and feel fit their system instead of what was already here or signed to be here.
ATLHawkeye
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I think that if Fran is serious about recruiting these guys after they've opened it up, one positive is that if they decide they still want to be Hawkeyes, they'll now be Fran's recruits, not Lick's.
Don't know if that would make any difference to them at all, but I think it may go a long way in making them feel like they're where they should be and not second guessing themselves down the road.
Don't know if that would make any difference to them at all, but I think it may go a long way in making them feel like they're where they should be and not second guessing themselves down the road.
This should be in a football post. Not basketball. Have you seen our bench?
GravyJones
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We're almost out of men.
Hawkize1
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Look it's pretty simple, If Brust and Larson don't want to commit to the Hawkeyes and coach Fran, then that's their choice.
Coach Fran now has like 4 schollies that he can hand out to the players he recruits, not Todd Lickliters recruits. I'm not saying that Brust and Larson de-committing is not a blow to the program, but it seems better to have players that want to be here, and will not second guess their choice in a year or two. (ie. Fuller, Kelley, Freeman, and Smith). Whether they were run off or ran off on their own, the point is those players did not finish their careers at Iowa. If Fran can recruit players into Iowa that will stay add stability to the program, then thats the route we should take.
Coach Fran now has like 4 schollies that he can hand out to the players he recruits, not Todd Lickliters recruits. I'm not saying that Brust and Larson de-committing is not a blow to the program, but it seems better to have players that want to be here, and will not second guess their choice in a year or two. (ie. Fuller, Kelley, Freeman, and Smith). Whether they were run off or ran off on their own, the point is those players did not finish their careers at Iowa. If Fran can recruit players into Iowa that will stay add stability to the program, then thats the route we should take.
HawkPrdatr40
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Do us all a favor. Don't return to posting on this site. Go elsewhere please. Seriously I can't stand to read some of the ridiculious comments by some on here...
All of the people seeing this as such gloom and doom really baffle me. What coach wouldn't prefer to fill out a team with "his guys", versus another guy's recruits...even if it causes a rough patch in the short term? I am sure he is happy to honor the University's commitment to them, but I bet he is equally fine with them pursuing other options in order to continue adding players he has targeted. Sure it hurts next season, but not too much beyond that.
hawkeye2188
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I agree with you whole heartedly but you cant knock Kelly and Smith. Jake's mom passed away and Tyler's dad's health was decreasing.
theboat
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And that is the exact attitude the team needs. A bunch of guys that feel like Lickliter's guys that are playing for McCaffery won't work. That is why I fell for the new coach as quickly as I did, he didn't talk about himself and Iowa like they were seperate things, he talked about it as if he was always a part of it, and the players need to be the same way to succeed.
You are quite possibly the most negative poster on here. Do us all a favor and take your act elsewhere ; because you are far from being anything close to a Hawkeye Fan .
cibula11
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This is exactly what happened to Lick when he took over for Alford. Everyone kept making excuses saying it was the last guy's fault. Bottom line, Fran could be starting with a team FAR, FAR worse than Lick ever had. Player deflections of this magnitude don't happen just because of a change. Does it happen at this rate for other programs? I don't think so.
HawkeyesWin
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Let's take a deep breath. Fran has been on the job for two weeks and some are already prepared to stick a fork in him. Let the dust settle, take our 10 win season next year and then see how things shake out after the end of the season next year. Let's give Fran a real chance.
tm3308
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How many programs make such a radical shift in style from one year to the next? We played some of the slowest basketball imagineable last year. Now we've got a guy who likes to get out, run and gun. I would imagine that THAT dramatic of a change will run off a few more guys than usual.
