Maybe if we did something like this....

Playmaker said:
And started paying some big money for some ESTABLISHED take no prisoners recruiters, we wouldn't be signing white WR's with offers from powerhouse schools like Army, Bowling Green, Central Michigan, and Illinois. Just another "Meh" signing by a "Meh" football program. Snort.....meh.

Nothing against the kid....just tired of being totally underwhelmed at the skill positions...signings like this, DO NOT get you to the next level. And that is all we see year after year after year.

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-wolverines-pay-top-assistants-1-million-year
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So as if they are a black WR with offers from schools like Army, Bowling Green, Central Michigan and Illinois you are okay with it?
 
theboat said:
Someone should tell the patriots that white receivers from Monmouth and Kent state will never make the Super bowl.


Scheme was 90% the problem. Change that, change a lot.
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I do agree with this. I don't believe that we recruited that better during the KOK era at wide receiver. And yet, those guys got open much more. GD scheme needs superior athletes at every position, and you aren't getting that here. I would a better scheme AND better athletes to implement it (I am a dreamer).
 
Was just thinking about Brodell burning Texas all American DB for a TD in Alamo game.Was there,fans went silent,loved it.He had pretty good speed for a so called W___ guy.
 
--------Why should it,actions speak louder than words,if you're good your good.I guess you need to tell us the guidelines when you start a new thread so we don't upset the playmaker

EVERY time someone talks about how we need to recruit out of Iowa, or start getting some inner city talent at the skill positions, SOMEONE has to throw out the same pat names that were exceptions to the rule of great recruiting. Just saying that it is getting predictable....and they are always the same names thrown out...some of them from TWENTY years ago!!!
 
------So as if they are a black WR with offers from schools like Army, Bowling Green, Central Michigan and Illinois you are okay with it?

More okay with that then then the constant pipeline of 2 Star preps from Tama.
 
I think everyone knows that the skilled position players for the most part don't come from Iowa.First of all we need good students in and out of class,rather have a 2-3 star player that wants to learn and get better than someone that thinks they already know it all and only thinks of themselves instead of the team,we had some of them not stick around because there heads were to big.Its know different in College recruiting and NFL drafting,it's all a crapshoot.Hopefully you get the right fit for your team,white,black or any other nationality.
 
--------First of all we need good students in and out of class,rather have a 2-3 star player that wants to learn and get better than someone that thinks they already know it all and only thinks of themselves instead of the team,we had some of them not stick around because there heads were to big.

Tired of relying on 2 stars who "want to get better"....why can't we recruit better and take some of the doubt out from the get go. Ferments has ZERO clue how to handle players with egos...he runs them off...not the other way around.
 
We had 2 1000yrd guys that weren't 4-5 star recruits,I like others on here believe it was the system that the WR's were trying to run that was the problem.Do agree we need WR's that know how to play the position and catch the damn ball.
 
You just don't get it do you.Doesn't matter how many stars a player has.A lot of guys in the NFL went under the radar.Some times you do all the research on a guy and it doesn't work out. If you were listening Iowa's passing schemes weren't working,I think we have some talent but aren't using them in the right way.All we can do is wait and see if they can fix the problem,I'm not going to throw the players under the bus,they only ran the routes they were taught.Hopefully they can excel under a different WR coach.
 
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Playmaker said:
--------First of all we need good students in and out of class,rather have a 2-3 star player that wants to learn and get better than someone that thinks they already know it all and only thinks of themselves instead of the team,we had some of them not stick around because there heads were to big.

Tired of relying on 2 stars who "want to get better"....why can't we recruit better and take some of the doubt out from the get go. Ferments has ZERO clue how to handle players with egos...he runs them off...not the other way around.
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Playmaker - question for you - did you go to any HS dances (Homecoming, Prom) with a date back in the day?
 
As far as white WRs goes the last time I checked New England is in the Super Bowl with 3 of their primary WRs that are physically unimposing white guys... Hogan is a stud that Buffalo clearly didn't take advantage of having. Edleman and Amendola have been around awhile now. They just have a heck of a system and QB. You don't have to have a Julio Jones (as nice as that is) to win.
 
Greg Davis couldn't scheme himself out of a paper bag.
A good coach can take mediocre talent and finds ways to create space/mismatches. Greg Davis has only shown that he can have a pretty good offense with unbelievable talent, and awful offense with anything else.

He was never a good fit, and I am excited for change. BF may not be Bill Walsh, but he has nowhere to take this offense but up. Talent isn't the issue here. Many coaches have done more with less.
 
Playmaker said:
I can't take credit for this post,,,,thought I's share it with you though,

Pop quiz: How do you lessen the talent level on the worst WR corp in D1 football last year?

Step 1: replace your OC with the coach's son, and make sure that son has never called a play before in his life.
Step 2: fire your WR coach 3 weeks before signing day and don't have a replacement in mind.
Step 3: have your only existing WR on the roster who was highly recruited retire from football after his sophomore year.
Step 4: seek out the whitest kids in the country who played WR in hs. Weed them out by offering only those who have MAC or worse level offers, and bring them aboard to bolster your roster filled with white walk-on WRs.
Step 5: pick up 3 or 4 of those, and bingo, you've done it! Rinse and repeat next year. You've just made a laughing stock WR corp even worse.
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LMAO!!! GREAT POST. My feelings exactly. The story of Iowa football under KF in a nutshell...
 
Considering the Patriots' top 3 WR's are all white (Edelman, Hogan, Amendola) I find it hilarious when people knock the white WR's. You can get a lot done with possession receivers that don't have a lot of size or downfield speed as long as they can run crisp routes and aren't afraid to go over the middle. Course you also have to have an OC who isn't afraid to call crossing routes and throws over the middle.
 
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