Marble's 'Slump' Really Slowed his Roll

JonDMiller

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Since neither the Hawkeyes coaches nor Devyn Marble would come out and say Marble was dealing with the effects of his ankle or turf toe injury during the middle of the season, I guess we'll have to refer to that period as a slump.

Now, it won't surprise me in the least bit that once the season is officially over we may have a little more light shed on that 'slump'. That's just my opinion going off the eye test of Marble's play before he rolled his ankle days prior to the Michigan State home game and what we saw from him for the next seven games after.

After reading the talk from Tuesday about Marble saying he will be returning to Iowa next year and harkening back on some of the NBA talk from this past summer, I decided to take a look at his numbers in three separate chunks. The first 15 games before the injuries, the next seven games in which he played then the last 10 games after he broke out of the 'slump'. Here are the numbers

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So what can we take away from these numbers?

First of all, that was one heck of a slump. I'll keep believing he was injured and Iowa was playing competitive advantage games, which I would have done were I in their shoes. He looked injured. He had a limp at times, he winced at others. His shot was flat as it was mostly arms and very little in the leg department. Wouldn't you know it the statistics bear that out, too. His field goal percentage before and after the slump was over 42% in each instance; during the slump it was 26.6%. You can see his three-point shooting percentages before,during and after, too. Huge decrease during the 'slump'.

OK, that's not conclusive of there being an injury. None of this will be but the smoking gun for me during the slump and one that holds up under this cross examination of the numbers is Marble's free throws attempted per game, or listed as FTA/G on the graph. He was at 5.08 per game in the 15 games before the slump and jumped to 5.80 per game in the 10 games after the slump. He was also playing more point guard in nearly half of the post-slump games so that could attribute for the higher average. But during the slump Marble's free throw attempts per game dipped to just 3.28. You may remember how he was unable to take anyone off the dribble, even slow footed Ben Brust. Or how Brust was able to beat Marble off the dribble. That was not good video there, but you could tell Marble was laboring even if Iowa wasn't admitting it. Notice how the Field Goal Attempts per game line, the 3FG% line, the FT% line, etc, how the first 15 and the final 10 are all very similar and how much of an outlier the Slump Seven line is.

Now that I feel better about what my eyes saw, move your attention to the bottom line of the data. That is taking Marble's first 15 games and final 10 games and adding those together without including any of the slump data.

Marble averaged 16 points per game during those 25 games, or most of the season. Matt Gatens averaged 15.2/ppg last year. Adam Haluska averaged 20.5/ppg in 2006-2007 on a team that was far less talented than this year's Iowa team. You'd have to go back to Pierre Pierce's 20 game stretch in 04-05 where he averaged 17.8/ppg before being kicked off the team for a better number than Marble's 16 outside of Haluska's.

Marble's average right now is 14.1/ppg but as you can see that slump took a bite out of one of the better individual scoring seasons Iowa has had in the past decade on arguably the second best team Iowa has had over the last decade.

Marble wasn't the one to initiate the NBA talk this summer, though me and others certainly weighed in strongly with opinions at the time which was unfair to Devyn, since he didn't bring up the topic. He didn't bring up the topic on Tuesday, either; he just answered the question.

That said, Marble put together a very, very good season and has shown exponential growth in each of the past two years as seen by these side by side stats provided via Marble's page at Sports Reference

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As you now know, Marble was on a pace for a much better season than his numbers will ultimately show. He'll return for his final year at Iowa and keep in mind that he's still just 20 years old and he won't turn 21 until September of his senior year, a year where his peers turn 22. I think there may be more growth in his game.
 
I've heard from a source within the program that it really wasn't an injury. Said source thought it may have been something going on off the court that was messing with Marble's head. Considering his 1-14 performance in the Indiana game, which came BEFORE his injury, maybe that isn't far off the mark.
 
I've heard from a source within the program that it really wasn't an injury. Said source thought it may have been something going on off the court that was messing with Marble's head. Considering his 1-14 performance in the Indiana game, which came BEFORE his injury, maybe that isn't far off the mark.

Nah, not buying that. That doesn't cause you to not be able to take people off the dribble for two weeks, wince on the court, limp on the court, barely be able to get up and dunk or be off timed on it cause you can't jump the way you did before, etc.

Re: Indiana? Oladipo.
 
Nah, not buying that. That doesn't cause you to not be able to take people off the dribble for two weeks, wince on the court, limp on the court, barely be able to get up and dunk or be off timed on it cause you can't jump the way you did before, etc.

Re: Indiana? Oladipo.

He also needed help getting off the court in minny. And hopped on his one foot as he got down off the court. He definitely was hurt. There might have been off the court stuff too. But the injury had to be the main culprit.
 
I've heard from a source within the program that it really wasn't an injury. Said source thought it may have been something going on off the court that was messing with Marble's head. Considering his 1-14 performance in the Indiana game, which came BEFORE his injury, maybe that isn't far off the mark.

Agree with Jon on this, getting on the floor should have been the best thing for him at that point actually. Forget everything else and just play ball. Yeah, maybe the IU players had a little something to do with that 1-14 performance.
 
The way Roy Jr played against Oregon in the 2011-12 season finale gave everyone high hopes for this year. He was amazing that game scoring over 30 points. If he would have played like that all year, he would be going pro... Regardless, he had a good year, minus the "slump".
2013-2014 will be another good year for RDM. I hope he can play the point again. He just seems like a natural at that position. He plays much more comfortable. Maybe Fran can rotate him in more at the point with AC and MG?
 
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Good piece Jon. Marble really took a big step forward in his 3 pt shooting ability this season. He shot a higher percentage last year but that was heavily influenced by the Oregon game (about a third of his total makes in that one game). He shot at a decent clip while greatly increasing his shot volume. I think he hits closer to 60 3's next year while shooting somewhere in the 37-40% range.
 
"First of all, that was one heck of a slump. I'll keep believing he was injured and Iowa was playing competitive advantage games, which I would have done were I in their shoes. He looked injured. He had a limp at times, he winced at others. His shot was flat as it was mostly arms and very little in the leg department. Wouldn't you know it the statistics bear that out, too. His field goal percentage before and after the slump was over 42% in each instance; during the slump it was 26.6%. You can see his three-point shooting percentages before,during and after, too. Huge decrease during the 'slump'."



The only thing I don't like by keeping it quite is that is something that the committee would be able to look at. I still don't think it would have mattered this year but if we had a couple more wins and it was down to us and Middle Tennessee state and lets say we lost to a Nebraska with him injured then it could make the committee think that if they had him might have won and easily be in right now.
 
Agree with Jon on this, getting on the floor should have been the best thing for him at that point actually. Forget everything else and just play ball. Yeah, maybe the IU players had a little something to do with that 1-14 performance.

Maybe getting on the court would be the best thing for you. I have no idea what the issue might have been for Marble. But just because getting on the floor might help some people forget everything else, doesn't mean it works for everybody. Also, I'm sure Indiana had something to do with those numbers. I'm just saying it might have been connected. I mean, they played well defensively, but 1-14? Plus it's not like he played significantly better over the course of the next few weeks.

Maybe it was all the injury. I'm just saying what I heard off the record.
 
Marble getting hurt was the difference in the year. If he just plays half his normal self at Purdue, Minnesota and Wisconsin, Iowa gets out of all 3. He was pretty much non existent and Iowa still should have taken all 3.
 
Fran putting Marble back in for defense at the end of regulation against Wisconsin is the only move Fran has made this year where I couldn't possibly see his reasoning for it.
 
Fran putting Marble back in for defense at the end of regulation against Wisconsin is the only move Fran has made this year where I couldn't possibly see his reasoning for it.

Not sure I see his reasoning for putting him in at the end of the game at Minnesota either. He sat most the second half and hadn't been in for such a long period and then put him in with the game on the line and he promptly passed it to Fran on the sideline for a turnover and a L.
 
I agree with everything Jon said. I've said several times that we missed the NCAA because Marble was hurt not because of our SOS, etc. He should have a big year next year.
 
It's not the first time a player and coach played off their being an injury. The reason is obvious. Marble felt he could help the team and coach agreed. However they didn't want other teams to know he was hurt so they would target him. Fortunatly he was able to play through it not get hurt worse and was pretty solid down the stretch. I'm sure it's not the first time a coach and player have tried to play off that a kid isn't hurt when he is. Not a big deal other than if someone on bench could have played better he should have been in there. That to me is where the only debate lies
 
I've heard from others, as well, that there was some non-physical issues that Devyn was dealing with.
I was emphatic after the MN game that he was hurt, but after awhile my opinions changed.

We may never know.
 

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