KOK vs Brian passing game - the bootleg and receiver levels

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uihawk82

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Not sure if was KOK's plays but his naked and one blocker bootlegs worked so well so many time. I know when you do a bootleg the negative aspect is you cut the field in half for your QB to find receivers but KOK almost always had 3 receivers at 3 levels on those plays.

Just watched a replay to the comeback in 2009 against IU where the hawks went to 9-0 (just prior to the Sports Illustrated cover jinx). Anyway they used that play multiple times to get big gains, first downs, and long TD passes.

It would just seem to be something to throw in to take some pressure off the Off LIne, naked or move the pocket or a one blocker escort,

And if you are daring you can throw back across the field to a Goodson or Sargent as a last resort if they are waiting there open.
 
I thought of that as well the other night. The roll outs work, and I do like the throw back against the grain kind of thing, but NS needs to stop, set his feet and throw the damn ball and quit trying to finesse it in there. I'm afraid he would get too much air and it would get picked.....I don't have the answer, but he/coaches better get it figured out fast....
 
I would like to see many more designed QB runs, maybe out of the empty set. NS took off a few times vs ISU and it worked. Stanley behind Linderbaum probably leads the nation in QB sneak yardage. He isn't that bad of a runner, sort of like a full-back or TE rumbling down the field.
 
uihawk82 said:
Not sure if was KOK's plays but his naked and one blocker bootlegs worked so well so many time. I know when you do a bootleg the negative aspect is you cut the field in half for your QB to find receivers but KOK almost always had 3 receivers at 3 levels on those plays.

Just watched a replay to the comeback in 2009 against IU where the hawks went to 9-0 (just prior to the Sports Illustrated cover jinx). Anyway they used that play multiple times to get big gains, first downs, and long TD passes.

It would just seem to be something to throw in to take some pressure off the Off LIne, naked or move the pocket or a one blocker escort,

And if you are daring you can throw back across the field to a Goodson or Sargent as a last resort if they are waiting there open.
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The naked boot gave Ferentz battered wife syndrome. His best ever team, sitting there at 9-0, getting ready to drop an absolute hammer on Northwestern. Naked boot. Corey Wooton. Season over. Dreams dashed. He put that sumnabitch away after that play. It ain't coming back, dude. It's gone.
 
okeefe4prez said:
The naked boot gave Ferentz battered wife syndrome. His best ever team, sitting there at 9-0, getting ready to drop an absolute hammer on Northwestern. Naked boot. Corey Wooton. Season over. Dreams dashed. He put that sumnabitch away after that play. It ain't coming back, dude. It's gone.
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yes that is the way it happened but they might have used the naked boot in the orange bowl Stanzi to Sandeman to get a TD. They used it in the 2010 Insight Bowl to seal the win with a pass to the tight end down to the one yard line. They kept using it but maybe more sparingly.

But the play you describe is exactly correct and you have to give Fitzie and his Dee Coord credit for allowing or having Wooton watching for that play. Wooton may have had QB assignment on that type of motion play all the way.

When the hawks almost beat PSU at night a few years ago P Parker had his front seven trying to penetrate more to blow up the mesh point and they did do it a few times. It was good to see that aggressive penetration.
 
uihawk82 said:
They used it in the 2010 Insight Bowl to seal the win with a pass to the tight end down to the one yard line. They kept using it but maybe more sparingly.
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I thought that was a straight play action. Either way, that play was a pure sellout on the run by Mizzou's defense because a first down there sealed the game and there was no way in hell they were gonna let Coker get that yardage on the ground.
 
okeefe4prez said:
I thought that was a straight play action. Either way, that play was a pure sellout on the run by Mizzou's defense because a first down there sealed the game and there was no way in hell they were gonna let Coker get that yardage on the ground.
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Yeah, Stanzi rolled out to the right after a play action fake and he had either Moacki or the other starting TE as a blocking escort who then released and caught the pass and rumbled downfield.

I have watched that replay so many times because it was an entertaining game.
 
So I know I'm gonna get blow back from the usual suspect here on this, but what the hell. Brian is dragging the offense into the present, it is sooooo different than what KOK did and what GDGD did while he was here. I love the principals of what he is doing, and the way the offense is evolving. I'm not loving the results this year, but those that think this is just the same old Iowa offense, you couldn't be more wrong.

 
deanvogs said:
So I know I'm gonna get blow back from the usual suspect here on this, but what the hell. Brian is dragging the offense into the present, it is sooooo different than what KOK did and what GDGD did while he was here. I love the principals of what he is doing, and the way the offense is evolving. I'm not loving the results this year, but those that think this is just the same old Iowa offense, you couldn't be more wrong.

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"The future is very strong for Iowa football" - that can't be right BF is a hack and is terrible /s
 
deanvogs said:
So I know I'm gonna get blow back from the usual suspect here on this, but what the hell. Brian is dragging the offense into the present, it is sooooo different than what KOK did and what GDGD did while he was here. I love the principals of what he is doing, and the way the offense is evolving. I'm not loving the results this year, but those that think this is just the same old Iowa offense, you couldn't be more wrong.

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Thanks, I enjoyed that.

But as you said, results are underwhelming, even if the concept is strong. Something is amiss, how is it going to get fixed?
 
CP87 said:
Thanks, I enjoyed that.

But as you said, results are underwhelming, even if the concept is strong. Something is amiss, how is it going to get fixed?
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The concepts, the modernization of the offense while still doing Iowa things, but in a more sophisticated way is what needed to happen. So Brian has gotten that part right. Things progressed well from year 1 to year 2 under Brian, so I thought it would progress again. Unfortunately it has not, but you can see that the new schemes are in place.
 
deanvogs said:
So I know I'm gonna get blow back from the usual suspect here on this, but what the hell. Brian is dragging the offense into the present, it is sooooo different than what KOK did and what GDGD did while he was here. I love the principals of what he is doing, and the way the offense is evolving. I'm not loving the results this year, but those that think this is just the same old Iowa offense, you couldn't be more wrong.

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We know it ain't the same old offense. It's worse. Well, it's better than Davis, but worse than O'Keefe.
 
deanvogs said:
The concepts, the modernization of the offense while still doing Iowa things, but in a more sophisticated way is what needed to happen. So Brian has gotten that part right. Things progressed well from year 1 to year 2 under Brian, so I thought it would progress again. Unfortunately it has not, but you can see that the new schemes are in place.
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By efficiency metrics, they did not necessarily progress. We were 45th in offensive efficiency (via Football Outsiders) in 2017, and we were 47th in 2018. We scored more points, but against substantially weaker defenses (2017 was a pretty tough schedule).

This year we are down to 59th.

I want to believe, and the Urban Meyer clip gives me more hope, but how do we explain the performance? Is it in-game play calling, and BF lacking a feel for zigging when teams think we will zag? Is it Polasek not getting the job done? Are we still recovering from the Greg Davis impact on both WR and OL (we stole OL schollies to swing and miss on a bunch of WRs)?

Until we get a good offensive performance in a significant game (where the outcome means something) against a good D, I am going to be skeptical.
 
ModebaSan said:
I still remember when the fire KOK crowd was around.
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Yeah, those were the days. "We only went 10-2 so Fire O'Keefe!" At least people felt like there was some possible change at OC. Now, the Ferentz Dynasty has taken hold and we're stuck. Ugh.

I'd like to see Meyer do an analysis of the 40 plays a game that Brian calls that totally suck instead of the handful that work for a short gain. Can you imagine Brian trying to fashion an offense with his 6th string tailback like O'Keefe did back in 2004?
 
deanvogs said:
So I know I'm gonna get blow back from the usual suspect here on this, but what the hell. Brian is dragging the offense into the present, it is sooooo different than what KOK did and what GDGD did while he was here. I love the principals of what he is doing, and the way the offense is evolving. I'm not loving the results this year, but those that think this is just the same old Iowa offense, you couldn't be more wrong.

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I said that earlier this year. It's not the same ole same ole.
If our red zone trips resulted in more TDS, we are undefeated.
For whatever reason our red zone game is what needs work. That maybe a better straight ahead grind our 4 yards at a time style running game or whatever but that is what is hurting us this year.
Thank God they had the foresight to upgrade our kicking game, because we would be screwed without them.
 
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