trj
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It is clear she is playing chess. Even though I have sympathy for Kirk and Brian because of the father/son dynamic, it is obvious they misplayed their hand on this.
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It is clear she is playing chess. Even though I have sympathy for Kirk and Brian because of the father/son dynamic, it is obvious they misplayed their hand on this.
dahlhawk
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I hate to call Kirk a liar, but I don't think Brian would still be coaching if Kirk didn't have some input on this move as pushing to let him finish the season. Usually a move like this brings an "interim" title to somebodies name.
Ben Rumson
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Shit Kirk, evaluating things and making changes is two different things. The fans heard the talk long enough. Got walk the walk sometimes. Key thing is this, if you don't want others making decisions you wouldn't or don't like , best be part of the solution way sooner in the process you just witnessed. DAMN INJURIES ANYWAY!
Ben Rumson
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Yeap, he had chances to be part of the solution long before yesterday!
BigD
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Everyone needs to remember that from the time Brian hired it was stated that it was the AD’s decision as far as Brian’s future at Iowa.
It’s my opinion that Barta was becoming a joke in the eyes of his peers and to avoid looking like a lapdog he came up with these weak and lame expectations just to save his own face.
At the time you had a B1G Ten Title QB coming in and one of the best rated TE’s in the conference coming in along with him. We all ready had another Top TE, along with one of the best Linebackers from another conference. Throw in a supposedly speedster receiver from Ohio State. Surely Barta thought this is a win win for my reputation and for Brian. No Ohio State or Michigan on the schedule. Surely Brian can easily handle this on his own. Win, Win, win for everyone.
Just in case though, this might be a good time to retire. ALL conjecture on my part, but does it seem all that far fetched?
What a mess this has all turned into. Sad really. Brian was pretty much raised to be a Hawkeye since his youth. He bore the uniform proudly and by most reports was an excellent Iowa player. No one opposed his hiring as a position coach. There may have been some who thought with his college experience, and previous college coaching experience that maybe he would have picked up the experience and know how on how to be a good offensive coordinator.
Some on here were for it, some thought it could be ok although there were concerns since his dad was the head coach, and some on here were against it because he dad is the head coach. I was hopeful and have always wish him and the program the very best.
Sadly, it didn’t work out. Because he has bore the Hawkeye colors inside and out I still felt a position coach should be open to him even though being an offensive coordinator didn’t seem to be his thing. The program is very solid. Add a legit offensive coordinator, leave Brian on at offensive line or tight end coach, have Parker in place as on of the best defensive coordinators, and all is well in Hawkeye land.
So why didn’t it happen that way??? Is there something going on behind the scenes? Will we ever know?
It’s my opinion that Barta was becoming a joke in the eyes of his peers and to avoid looking like a lapdog he came up with these weak and lame expectations just to save his own face.
At the time you had a B1G Ten Title QB coming in and one of the best rated TE’s in the conference coming in along with him. We all ready had another Top TE, along with one of the best Linebackers from another conference. Throw in a supposedly speedster receiver from Ohio State. Surely Barta thought this is a win win for my reputation and for Brian. No Ohio State or Michigan on the schedule. Surely Brian can easily handle this on his own. Win, Win, win for everyone.
Just in case though, this might be a good time to retire. ALL conjecture on my part, but does it seem all that far fetched?
What a mess this has all turned into. Sad really. Brian was pretty much raised to be a Hawkeye since his youth. He bore the uniform proudly and by most reports was an excellent Iowa player. No one opposed his hiring as a position coach. There may have been some who thought with his college experience, and previous college coaching experience that maybe he would have picked up the experience and know how on how to be a good offensive coordinator.
Some on here were for it, some thought it could be ok although there were concerns since his dad was the head coach, and some on here were against it because he dad is the head coach. I was hopeful and have always wish him and the program the very best.
Sadly, it didn’t work out. Because he has bore the Hawkeye colors inside and out I still felt a position coach should be open to him even though being an offensive coordinator didn’t seem to be his thing. The program is very solid. Add a legit offensive coordinator, leave Brian on at offensive line or tight end coach, have Parker in place as on of the best defensive coordinators, and all is well in Hawkeye land.
So why didn’t it happen that way??? Is there something going on behind the scenes? Will we ever know?
Bigtenchamp
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yeah, kirk was gone before any of this happened anyway.
His HOF career based on mediocrity and beating inferior opponents can't continue with the conference changes.
His HOF career based on mediocrity and beating inferior opponents can't continue with the conference changes.
hawkinn3
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Based on DCs who pulled his ass out of the fire. Norm and Phil made Kirk.
Completely agree and said this immediately when Barta departure was announced. He had the power even Hayden didn’t have. Free reign for 24 years. No president checked him, no AD, big donors and the media definitely gave a free pass the entire time. Fans by and large did.
But the day Barta exited, his world changed. I definitely think he was blindsided by the timing of beth’s aggression, but I absolutely don’t think he was surprised…by a long shot. He’s smarter than that.
He’s really in a very bad spot. He loves Iowa more than we’ll ever know. He had the perfect plan in place with gary for Brian to take over. It just didn’t come together like they wanted and Barta leaving ruined best laid plans.
Kirk is royally pissed, but he’s a gentleman through and through. Despite everything, he deserved way better than this moment, but he’s complicit. He’s so pissed, there’s nothing more that he wants than to rally the troops and win out. If that happens, i see him walking after this year in a “i showed you” moment. He has absolutely nothing else to coach for other than having nothing else to do that he cares about, but he also feels like he isn’t wanted anymore because this was a haymaker he didn’t see coming and doesn’t feel it was deserved. He wanted it way cleaner than this and on his time.
His power base is gone. He feels smitten by an interim, female outsider. We are going to get kirk 4.0 the last four games plus one and it will be the absolute best kirk we’ve seen in 24 years. And then he’ll walk into the sunset and never look back, but he’ll be a broken man…and for that…I’m with him. This is not what he deserved at all…
