Hey WinOne, remember when Hayden took the Iowa job, he quipped something to the effect, "It's not the Big Ten, it is the Big Two and Little Eight". I can't remember exact stats, but I'm not certain anybody other than Michigan or OSU won the BIG title during the 70's. Those two teams were on a different level than everybody else in the BIG. I never cared for Schembechler but fact is the Wolves have declined a lot since his departure. We need Michingan, OSU, and Penn State to be good in order to retain national stature.