Kentucky Miss St
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ArvadaHawk
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SheagleHawk
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Yes please. That Kentucky team would curb stomp Iowa. That was a fun game to watch. The more football one watches on Saturday the more one realizes Kirk just has to go, and soon.
DesMoinesHawki
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Stoops has definitely injected some excitement in Lexington. Fun team to watch and he is starting to get it done on the recruiting front. Have to admit I often wonder what it would be like to have a new staff come in and kick the Iowa program in the rear.
hawkphan00
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I was hesitant about Mark going there but to see that program turn around and look sound on all sides of the ball against a number one team makes me think he would be a great fit for Iowa. He has Kentucky playing fast and it's certainly not something we see at Iowa. I saw some zone blocking stretch plays and their tailback, unlike our slow fullback that's starting at tailback, hit the corner and turned upfield for 20 multiple times. It's a simple concept when you put guys in position to make plays and they succeed, cause we sure don't.
ibahawkeye
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Would he even want to leave an SEC coaching job in which he is building momentum to come to a mediocre big ten team?
A coach from a good Big Ten school left to go coach a bad SEC school.
A coach from a good Big Ten school left to go coach a bad SEC school.
Iowa is a way better gig than the majority of SEC schools imo. It's suspect deduction, but I'm guessing guys like Biels, or either of the Stoops brothers wouldn't mind being the head guy where they played their college ball.
rollingthunder
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He has been recruiting like gangbusters as well.
Lots of top Ohio kids.
Lots of top Ohio kids.
SpecialKHawk
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That is an opinion straight from the eyes of a fan waxing poetically. I can see Mark leaving Kentucky but I am not certain he would come to Iowa.
We have almost nothing going for us. The University does not support athletics, historically bad president, bad AD, in-state media with an axe to grind and fatigued fan base.
hawkdrummer1
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"almost nothing going for us" ? Come on, man.
rollingthunder
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The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Iowa is certainly not a better job than "the majority" of the SEC schools, as g11 asserted. LSU, Bama, Auburn, Tennesee, Florida, aTm, and Georgia are all light years ahead of us in terms of prestige, history, resources, recruiting base, etc. That's half the league right there.
Iowa is only "clearly" better than Vanderbilt. You could also argue Kentucky, although they have very good fan support and resources as well, just no level of historical success to speak of.
Arkansas and the Mississippi schools are pretty equal to Iowa in terms of prestige. Missouri and South Carolina are in states with significantly higher populations, but Iowa actually has about 30 more wins all-time than SC and has overall been more successful than Mizzou in the last 35 years (post-Hayden).
Iowa does have several advantages that the apologists love to conveniently ignore. We are one of the most profitable athletic departments in the country. We have proven that we are willing to put significant resources into football and pay our coach a nationally competitive wage (KF is currently the 9th highest paid HC in the country according to the USA Today database, more than every SEC coach except for 4: Saban, Miles, Biels, and Tenn's coach). While a major conference, the B1G (specifically the West division) is far easier to have immediate success in than any other major league other than the ACC (and only if you're in the division opposite FSU/Clemson). And most importantly, Iowa fans are ABSURDLY loyal, almost to a fault. Coaching at Iowa with just a very modest level of competence is basically a lifetime gig. There is very little pressure or expectation compared to just about any other decent football school in America.
It is an interesting and compelling argument/discussion.
Are you mad because the women's rowing team doesn't get enough love or something? The football program constantly fluctuates in the top 20 financially, and the facilities are some of the best in the country. The fan base isn't in to games because the product on the field is boring as hell to watch. It's pretty simple, a coach like Biels coming to town would immediately make the football team more enjoyable to watch, and on top of that the team most likely competes for the B1G championship every year because he doesn't coach his teams like a coward.
Agree, I think there's a lot of pros/cons you could throw at SEC programs, especially the elite ones. Iowa doesn't really have many cons, and that's a big reason I think it's a very under-rated football job. You get the pay, job security, and exceptional tools at your disposal here.
rollingthunder
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Golfer
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I remember when I posted a long rant about this several years ago and got crucified for it. FWIW, I do think either BB or MS, possibly even BS would consider coming to Iowa for reason I won't bore you with. I don't think it is a realistic possibility, but if the opportunity arose, I do believe all three would seriously consider this option.
BILLBUCKNER
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This explains the fans right or wrong who support Ferentz no matter what. They think its more important to support the program no matter that direction its in than to think of the potential it could be again under fresh leadership.
SpecialKHawk
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Link for this or is this just hyperbole?
The listings I see for best facilities in the country top 10 and top 25 do not list Iowa. The B1G schools listed are OSU, Mich, MSU, PSU and Nebby in the top 25.
Was it Dinardo from the BTN last year that said we had some of the worst in the league?
I would very much like a new coach and would be thrilled with Mark Stoops but I think we would end up with a lessor known commodity. The Iowa job is not as highly thought of as our own fans believe. Heck we are 7-9 against our in state rivals who have far less resources and history.
Incorrect sir, we have new facilities and he said we now have the best in the B1G, simply put MS would leave Kentucky in a heart beat for Iowa.
deanvogs
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Speaking of link or is this just hyperbole???
-Iowa pays top 10 kind of money
-Very stable job, 2 coaches over the last 36 years
-Top 10-20 in revenues in college football
-In a very soft and winnable division
-4 top 10 finishes over last 15 years, so it is actually realistic to contend for a playoff spot in the future
-New facilities, and a willingness to spend money
