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[hawkfan33]

When the complaint was the high number of busts among high schoolers, it seems to make sense to simply stop drafting them. Especially since they decided to put in a rule that says just that.

To your final point: Again I bring up Jordan, Magic, and Bird (along with all the other NBA legends who made a name for themselves in college for more than one year). There was never a rule stopping players like them from entering out of high school or after their freshman years. Yet they stayed. Are you suggesting that those players weren't ready for the NBA out of high school? Perhaps they weren't (Bird would have struggled from a maturity standpoint, from what he has said). But that also didn't stop them from becoming three of the five best players to ever play the game.

The main NBA complaint about high schoolers was that they didn't want to have to waste time scouting high school players. The one and done rule makes it much easier to evaluate players, especially big men, against better competition and also gives the NBA tons of free marketing.

And you really shouldn't use Magic to try and make your point. Magic went pro as a sophomore when it was unheard of for sophomores to go pro. He was one of the ones leaving as soon as he could. That was also a much different time when almost no one went pro early, Magic was much closer to a KG or Kobe, someone bucking the system and going pro early, than he was a four year college type.

 

[tm3308]

The main NBA complaint about high schoolers was that they didn't want to have to waste time scouting high school players. The one and done rule makes it much easier to evaluate players, especially big men, against better competition and also gives the NBA tons of free marketing.

And you really shouldn't use Magic to try and make your point. Magic went pro as a sophomore when it was unheard of for sophomores to go pro. He was one of the ones leaving as soon as he could. That was also a much different time when almost no one went pro early, Magic was much closer to a KG or Kobe, someone bucking the system and going pro early, than he was a four year college type.

I said he stayed for more than one year. And he didn't go pro as soon as he could. There was no one and done rule in place at the time, and he COULD have gone pro out of high school. But instead he played two years at MSU. And had either Johnson or Bird left college early, they wouldn't have faced off in the NCAA championship game in '79. That gave a very marketable angle to create the rivalry in their NBA careers, and is the sort of legend I'm talking about.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

They may be physically capable earlier, but they aren't usually ready after one year of college. There's more raw talent, but players can come into the league more prepared to hit the ground running if they get polished in college rather than in their first few years in the league.

I assume this is just your opinion? Four of the last five ROY winners have been one and done's. Besides the enjoyment of college basketball fans, what's the argument for "polishing" your skills in college if you're a star basketball player? You won't improve your game as much as you would in the NBA, you're wasting an additional year or years of your prime earning period playing for free, you're delaying your second contract, where the real money is, by another year or years, you're putting yourself at risk for a career changing injury all for what?

Whenever they come out they still have a major adjustment to the NBA, no mattter if they spent four years in college or one, there's still plenty of busts who have spent four years in college (Actually this may be slightly false, because if they have to play all four years in college odds are pretty low of them being anything more than a role player in the NBA).

 

[ssckelley]

The one and done year rule is helping the NBA immensely. John Wall, Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis all have become marketable stars as rookies thanks to the rule. It's providing a year of free publicity for the NBA. I don't think they need to make it a three year rule as unlike college football, basketball players are ready to compete at the next level earlier.

It is not helping the NBA, the quality of play has gone down hill. These stars will be just as marketable coming out as Juniors as they will be coming out as Freshman.

 

[hawkfan33]

It is not helping the NBA, the quality of play has gone down hill. These stars will be just as marketable coming out as Juniors as they will be coming out as Freshman.

You think the quality of play in the NBA has gone downhill since they put in the one year rule? I would absolutely disagree with that. And obviously the longer they stay in college the more marketable and well known they would be as a rookie, but a lot of players are ready long before that. There's no need to make them stay 3 years from the NBA perspective.

 

[tm3308]

I assume this is just your opinion? Four of the last five ROY winners have been one and done's. Besides the enjoyment of college basketball fans, what's the argument for "polishing" your skills in college if you're a star basketball player? You won't improve your game as much as you would in the NBA, you're wasting an additional year or years of your prime earning period playing for free, you're delaying your second contract, where the real money is, by another year or years, you're putting yourself at risk for a career changing injury all for what?

Whenever they come out they still have a major adjustment to the NBA, no mattter if they spent four years in college or one, there's still plenty of busts who have spent four years in college (Actually this may be slightly false, because if they have to play all four years in college odds are pretty low of them being anything more than a role player in the NBA).

I'll concede that staying doesn't offer a significant enough advantage for the player to stay or for the NBA to force them to stay.

But the enjoyment of college basketball fans is what I care most about, and that was my stance in the beginning. I like it better when these players stick around for more than one year.

 

[ssckelley]

I think it does benefit the player staying in college for a couple of years. They get the chance to mature as adults, get a college education, and develop their skills & bodies.

On the flip side it would be nice if the NCAA softened up their eligibility rules for those that do take a chance on leaving early for the NBA draft and do not make it. Anybody that does not get drafted in the first round gets no contract guarantee. So give these players a chance to go back to school and continue with their education and develop their basketball skills. By the end of the NBA summer leagues these players have a pretty good idea if they are going to make the NBA roster or not.