Keegan Murray...



Take it and run son. He's been consistent in his three years but hasn't taken that next step. And certainly not for a player picked fourth overall. The trades that made DeRozan and Levine Sacremento Kings hurt Keegan a bit because both of those players kind of demand the ball a lot.

Sorry to see that he won't be able to start the season on time but at least it was his non shooting hand (his twin brother is left handed)
 




Good for Keegan!

I'm surprised to see him get his, I thought his game had gone a bit stale last year. But the Kings evidently like what they see in him so more power to him.

I see Russell Westbrook has joined the Kings. They want to win in the worst way.
 


That’s amazing. This caught my attention from the article;

Murray is one of seven players to make at least 150 3-pointers in each of his first three NBA seasons, according to ESPN Research.
 




Basketball money is nuts

The NBA just negotiated a 76 billion dollar media rights deal and the players get 50%of the revenue. So you give a guy averaging 14/4 a 140 million dollar extension. That’s not a dig on Keegan…you gotta give it to somebody.
 


When Keegan was drafted I said he would play 10+ years and make 200-300 million dollars in his career. I just didn’t know where his ceiling would be as a player. I still don’t know.
 


The NBA just negotiated a 76 billion dollar media rights deal and the players get 50%of the revenue. So you give a guy averaging 14/4 a 140 million dollar extension. That’s not a dig on Keegan…you gotta give it to somebody.
The WNBA?

Ducks and runs ...
 


The WNBA?

Ducks and runs ...


The WNBA players seem to be holding out for a HUGE HUGE pay raise.

I know the WNBA players turned a recent proposal to raise the minimum from 76k to 250k, and raise the max from 250k to $1M, or something like that. Essentially quadrupling everybody's salary. And this with 3 new expansion teams added in the last 2 years. Yet the players want more.
 


The WNBA?

Ducks and runs ...
The WNBA players seem to be holding out for a HUGE HUGE pay raise.

I know the WNBA players turned a recent proposal to raise the minimum from 76k to 250k, and raise the max from 250k to $1M, or something like that. Essentially quadrupling everybody's salary. And this with 3 new expansion teams added in the last 2 years. Yet the players want more.

Each WNBA team are being valued anywhere from 100 to 200 million dollars, and the players receive 9% of the revenue.

Like you guys I have no idea what the magic number should be. 15%? 30%? 50%? No clue what percentage makes sense.
 


The W just needs to be careful and not get ahead of itself.

In the beginning there were lots of W teams and they were going to be on equal terms with the men. Problem was revenue wouldn't support it and many of the teams went belly uup. I still can't believe Houston won 4 straight W titles and now doesn't even exist.

Caitlin Clark out the W into a realm that it wasn't ready for. I agree with the calls for the head of theW, the commissioner who is clearly in over her head. Hen, CC should have never been left of the Olympic team, it started there. Now the players want CC like money. I don't blame them, but will the revenues support it?
 


It will be interesting to see what happens with Kris Murray next when it's extension time for him. He hasn't had the success his twin has had but he's still in the Portland rotation. Gets about 10-15 minutes/game and he never seems to fill up the stat sheet. There must be something about him they like. He won't get a big extension like Keegan but he might get something. Then again, he might get waived.
 


Each WNBA team are being valued anywhere from 100 to 200 million dollars, and the players receive 9% of the revenue.
Those numbers aren't based on anything tangible. It's a wild ass guess as to how much the teams would bring if they went up for sale. Total funny money.

It's not a matter of how much as a percentage of perceived value they should be paid. In any business, the amount paid has to be dictated by the amount of revenue and profits that are generated. WNBA loses WAAAAAY more money than it spends on salaries and operations. It's so far in the red it ain't even funny, the players salaries and operational cost (loses) are all covered by the NBA which owns 42%. The NBA just eats the loss to provide the league for fans and looks at it as just another expense.

That's what none of these players seems to understand and none of them have apparently ever taken a finance, economics, or accounting class. "Pay us what you owe us?" Literally no one owes you anything. You don't make your employee any money. In fact, your job loses money and is strictly in business just because if the NBA said it wasn't going to continue to subsidize your business at a loss, the political backlash from certain groups would end up costing them more in boycotts, etc. than it's worth.

WNBA players should feel lucky to be paid anything at all, because if not for the NBA covering their cash bleeding business model they wouldn't have careers as a pro basketball players.

I don't know where any of you are employed, but let me ask you this. If you work for a for-profit business, would you continue to have jobs if your employer didn't generate a single dollar of profit from it?

Yes, the NBA has billions of dollars, but no...you're not entitled to it. None of the billions in profit they have are generated by you. The $50 million in losses each year that your league causes however...those are in fact generated by your league. In no other business is a product with demand being orders of magnitude less that ROI going to stay alive.
 




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