Jon - you're overthinking the divisions

BSpringsteen

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Likely Nebraska's only demand is to play in the same division as Iowa.

You can seed them 1-6 but in reality - Ohio State is clearly #1. Michigan and Nebraska are clearly in the second group so you can split that either way. Penn State is alone at 4, and Iowa Wisconsin could be mismatched as 5-6.

Wisconsin has three championships, Iowa has 2, but Wisconsin has none since 1999.

Since 2002 - Iowa has finished above Wisconsin 5 years, and tied another. They have only finished behind Wisconsin stwice in the last eight years.

My point is this. Iowa is no slouch in this argument and isn't a clear number 6 to Wisconsins 5. Furthermore, I don't think Barta is fighting for much of anything besides playing Nebraska every year. When you have two schools that share a border saying that they have to play each other every year, that is going to be tough to ignore.

I don't think Iowa or Nebraska care about anything besides being in the same division and making sure only one other team from the big 6 are in that division. The rest of it is not worth caring about.

Lastly, the entire point of separating Michigan and Ohio State is to have an East/West split make some semblance of sense.

Alvarez walks around Madison like Tony Soprano. He is simply looking to get his name out there as often as possible and appear to be in charge. I seriously doubt that Iowa or Nebraska is allowing this to happen and furthermore, they have a reason not to. What is Wisconsins reasoning? Because they think playing Nebraska would be neat-o?
 
Why do people think Nebraska won't allow this to happen? has anyone from Nebraska spoken up with their opinion on who should be in what division? What Nebraska officials are demanding they play Iowa?
 
Why do people think Nebraska won't allow this to happen? has anyone from Nebraska spoken up with their opinion on who should be in what division? What Nebraska officials are demanding they play Iowa?

I'm not sure Nebraska officials have had much to say, but the fans sure as heck have, and they are one of the most influential fan bases in the country. Money also talks, which is why Nebby came to the Big 10 in the first place. Iowa is the most logical and lucrative pick to be the rival and I'm really feeling that we end up with Nebraska and Michigan in the west.
 
Osborne said during B10 meetings that in making the circuit around Neb, over the years the fans have always clamored to play Iowa.
 
I just do not want to be with OSU- we simply hardly ever beat them. Wisconsin beats them alot more than us- put them with OSU.
 
I think everyone is overthinking this...at the end of the day UM and OSU will be together and the rest of it will shake out
 
I just do not want to be with OSU- we simply hardly ever beat them. Wisconsin beats them alot more than us- put them with OSU.

I think that is pretty much everyone's feeling...behind all of the posturing about rivalries and geography it boils down to one fact: Iowa is scared of Ohio State.
 
Likely Nebraska's only demand is to play in the same division as Iowa.

You can seed them 1-6 but in reality - Ohio State is clearly #1. Michigan and Nebraska are clearly in the second group so you can split that either way. Penn State is alone at 4, and Iowa Wisconsin could be mismatched as 5-6.

Wisconsin has three championships, Iowa has 2, but Wisconsin has none since 1999.

Since 2002 - Iowa has finished above Wisconsin 5 years, and tied another. They have only finished behind Wisconsin stwice in the last eight years.

My point is this. Iowa is no slouch in this argument and isn't a clear number 6 to Wisconsins 5. Furthermore, I don't think Barta is fighting for much of anything besides playing Nebraska every year. When you have two schools that share a border saying that they have to play each other every year, that is going to be tough to ignore.

I don't think Iowa or Nebraska care about anything besides being in the same division and making sure only one other team from the big 6 are in that division. The rest of it is not worth caring about.

Lastly, the entire point of separating Michigan and Ohio State is to have an East/West split make some semblance of sense.

Alvarez walks around Madison like Tony Soprano. He is simply looking to get his name out there as often as possible and appear to be in charge. I seriously doubt that Iowa or Nebraska is allowing this to happen and furthermore, they have a reason not to. What is Wisconsins reasoning? Because they think playing Nebraska would be neat-o?

Everyone needs to stop thinking about this in any other terms besides financial terms. The Big 10 is dead. This is basically like starting over fresh and its a chance to make huge dollars. Their not going to let a little thing like "Iowa has finished behind Wisconsin only 2 out of the last 8 years" get in the way of making profits. If it works out as you hypothesized that is because that was the best way to maximize profit. nothing else.
 
Why do people think Nebraska won't allow this to happen? has anyone from Nebraska spoken up with their opinion on who should be in what division? What Nebraska officials are demanding they play Iowa?

Tom Osborne said that being in Iowa's division would be very important to them.
 
I think that is pretty much everyone's feeling...behind all of the posturing about rivalries and geography it boils down to one fact: Iowa is scared of Ohio State.

Not everyone feels that way. I wrote in another thread that I could care less what the divisions look like. We will have to beat OSU if we want to win a championship anyway. What's it matter if that happens in the title game or in a divisional game?
 
Not everyone feels that way. I wrote in another thread that I could care less what the divisions look like. We will have to beat OSU if we want to win a championship anyway. What's it matter if that happens in the title game or in a divisional game?

Completely agree, I'm more worried about who we might not get to play than who we might have to play.
 
Iowa and Nebraska fans have been waiting generations for this rivalry to be annual. I'm not worried about it.

Michigan and OSU want to be in separate divisions. You put PSU with OSU and Nebraska with Michigan. Iowa goes with Nebraska and Wisconsin goes with PSU/OSU. Minnesota follows Wisconsin with the Axe and sparty goes with Michigan. This leaves:

D-1
OSU
PSU
Wisconsin
Minnesota

D-2
UM
Neb
Iowa
MSU

Put Illinois and Purdue with OSU (they share trophies) and Indiana (trophy with MSU) and Northwestern with Michigan. There's your divisions.

Crossovers:
UM-OSU
PSU-MSU
NEB-WIS
IOWA-MINN
IND-PUR
ILL-NW

Done. Short sweet. Easy. Once we have 9 games, we can add another protected one and make even more people happy.
 
Not everyone feels that way. I wrote in another thread that I could care less what the divisions look like. We will have to beat OSU if we want to win a championship anyway. What's it matter if that happens in the title game or in a divisional game?

I agree with this.

Also, to be the best you have to play the best.
I welcome playing Ohio State every year.
 
Iowa and Nebraska fans have been waiting generations for this rivalry to be annual. I'm not worried about it.

Michigan and OSU want to be in separate divisions. You put PSU with OSU and Nebraska with Michigan. Iowa goes with Nebraska and Wisconsin goes with PSU/OSU. Minnesota follows Wisconsin with the Axe and sparty goes with Michigan. This leaves:

D-1
OSU
PSU
Wisconsin
Minnesota

D-2
UM
Neb
Iowa
MSU

Put Illinois and Purdue with OSU (they share trophies) and Indiana (trophy with MSU) and Northwestern with Michigan. There's your divisions.

Crossovers:
UM-OSU
PSU-MSU
NEB-WIS
IOWA-MINN
IND-PUR
ILL-NW

Done. Short sweet. Easy. Once we have 9 games, we can add another protected one and make even more people happy.

I don't think Michigan and Ohio State want to be in separate divisions. At least their fans don't.
 

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