Jon Miller Pod

[CP87]

I get this is a message Board and speculating about the future is 90% of what we do around here. But, my god this is all so premature. If the rest of the season goes to chalk, we will be 10-2, ranked around 20th and be in line for a really good bowl game. Even if it is 8 or 9 games, again, a lot of fan bases would kill to consistently win 8-9 games.

But hey, let's force Frank Solich out because he will not update the offense and we can find a coach who can "take us to the next level." What could go wrong there??????

Outcomes are influenced by many factors outside of our control: quality of opponent and luck being the 2 big ones.

We need to control what we can control, which is the processes that put the team in position to compete. One of our processes has been busted for 30 straight games, and we are ignoring it because an elite D and ST have carried us to success against a weak schedule. Fix the problem.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Fix the problem.

Meaning what? Fire KF after a 9-win season?

 

[CP87]

Meaning what? Fire KF after a 9-win season?

No, switch OC. If KF is not onboard and wants to resign, that is on him, but a steward of the athletic department cannot let the money-maker of the entire department continue on this trajectory. It will have a snowball effect on recruiting, and people will eventually stop showing up at games. The AD exists to make hard decisions like this that are best for the long-term future of programs and departments.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Meaning what? Fire KF after a 9-win season?

No but give KF the choice to actually do it. Quit enabling him by keeping his kid on staff. It's past time to get with the times. If KF isn't wanting to continue coaching without his kid or hire an OC with some more aggressive tendencies and pedigree than that can be his decision to make. But the AD needs to have a sit down with KF to make it crystal clear a new OC and new offensive direction has to be made. It shoulda been done a yr or 2 ago.

I get the bottom liners are going to say but 8/9 wins....... Well going forward without the BIG west soft ass schedule to fall back on that's about to become an impossibility to be able to do with the same terrible O. Regardless of the non conference schedule route they decide to go with. The schedule is about to get really tough most yrs. And if folks think Iowa is a laughing stock now (they are) due to the O just wait till they start having 5 win seasons due to it.

 

[Grady]

Goetz is in an extremely difficult spot.

First, there is almost zero doubt that she will be named the permanent AD. The transition was set up when she was hired, and now the process is simply a formality.

My guess is that her instinct was to tear up that ridiculous contract stipulation when she was hired, but didn't out of respect for Barta and a desire to not rock the boat right off the bat. Now, she is in a position where she can't tear it up, knowing that it would look like she was simply protecting Kirk's son - not a good look at all.

At the end of the season she will be balancing the contract stipulation, trustee and booster noise, a desire to not be the person that triggers the loss of an iconic coach, and her own insecurities with being new and making decisions that will have ramifications for the program for decades.

I don't envy her position.

This is one of the smartest posts I've seen on this board in a long time.

 

[CP87]

 

[NCHawker]

I listen to this weekly, and pretty much consume all of the Iowa podcast with all the Hawkfanatic casts, the HN casts, On Iowa casts, Iowa Everywhere casts, Hawkeye Report casts, Washed Up Walkons cast, 2 Peas in Pod cast....


and I regurgitate a lot of views that Jon, Leistikow, and Dochterman, Howe, Kakert have on this site. They help me form a lot of my opinions on Iowa sports. I have been saying this is probably it for Kirk all off season. Even if Iowa does somehow win 10 games, if the offense is still broken and as bad as it's been, Goetz isn't going to want her first move as AD to be signing a very unpopular OC. It would set a bad precedent and not be a baller 1st move.

It's why I also stated that firing BF would do almost NOTHING and chances are we don't upgrade at OC even with a new hire. Who wants to come to Iowa where the OC is the whipping boy of the fan base EVERY single year. It was KOK, then it was Davis, now it's Brian and that makes it worse because it's his kid....but make no mistake, it's not his kids offense. Revamping and having a modern offense would have to come from Kirk and I think he's too stubborn and wants to prove that it can be done his way.

I really hope the wheels don't fall off this season but the body language and some of the quotes from Cade and Niko last week make me think.... "woah, this isn't the company line, we may have lost some guys here".....but KF is a master at rallying the troops so I guess we'll see what happens. If Iowa loses to MSU Saturday, the bottom will fall out.

I'm big on podcasts too. Some of Iowa's are good, others i checked out and let go. You might like these 3 national pods

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[Tippett]

I would like to know if Kirk wants to have the most wins in Big history. He only needs around 16 more wins I think.

 

[hawkinn3]

I miss Miller lording over the boards and going on ban fits from time to time. Now we got like 20 people on here.

 

[BigD]

I miss Miller lording over the boards and going on ban fits from time to time. Now we got like 20 people on here.

I’ve taken notice. Of course there has always been readers who never post. Kurt burnout?

For those of you who have using the word RELEVANT when we haven’t won a Big Ten Championship in TWENTY years, can we meet somewhere and you can give me some of that shit you are smoking or sniffing?

 

[guffus]

I would like to know if Kirk wants to have the most wins in Big history. He only needs around 16 more wins I think.

That's a weird stat. It's most overall wins as a head coach while their team is a part of the Big Ten. So it counts the Non-conference and conference wins as long as his team is in the Big Ten at the time. So it does not count all of Joe Paterno's wins before PSU joined the Big Ten. It also does not count any of Tom Osborne's wins before Nebraska joined the Big Ten.

But that's OK, you say, just count conference wins only, where Kirk is 40 wins behind Woody Hayes. Kirk is never going to catch Hayes in conference wins.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

Goetz is in an extremely difficult spot.

First, there is almost zero doubt that she will be named the permanent AD. The transition was set up when she was hired, and now the process is simply a formality.

My guess is that her instinct was to tear up that ridiculous contract stipulation when she was hired, but didn't out of respect for Barta and a desire to not rock the boat right off the bat. Now, she is in a position where she can't tear it up, knowing that it would look like she was simply protecting Kirk's son - not a good look at all.

At the end of the season she will be balancing the contract stipulation, trustee and booster noise, a desire to not be the person that triggers the loss of an iconic coach, and her own insecurities with being new and making decisions that will have ramifications for the program for decades.

I don't envy her position.

The booster factor is an interesting one. We often hear that the big money Hawks love KFz. One has to wonder how much that has changed with this BFz debacle and embarassment for our brand. Is Goetz taking a straw poll of the biggest boosters and discussing this with them?

She'd be in a tough spot trying to fire KFz after a 8-9 win season. I think she gives the Brian ultimatum and if KFz says ...if he goes I go... so be it. He will have made it perfectly clear what his priorities are. Then she needs it make it 100% clear publicly that that's how it went down. I don't think anyone would blame her...it would expose KFz's true and selfish motivations.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I would like to know if Kirk wants to have the most wins in Big history. He only needs around 16 more wins I think.

Probably yes. But he'd never publicly admit to it.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

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This style of O that we play and 'complimentary football' is supposed to be all about preventing that... It's designed to keep us in games we shouldn't. The flip side to it is it also keeps teams that we should beat handily in games against us as well... But for us to be getting blown out at all is a pretty big red flag let alone as often as we are now.

 

[NCHawker]

I miss Miller lording over the boards and going on ban fits from time to time. Now we got like 20 people on here.

I enjoyed his last pod on Iowa Everywhere. But I stopped consuming his content a few years ago. Its seemed to me that Jon just talks about Jon. Iowa football was a canvas for him to talk about himself. I got tired of it and punched out.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

I enjoyed his last pod on Iowa Everywhere. But I stopped consuming his content a few years ago. Its seemed to me that Jon just talks about Jon. Iowa football was a canvas for him to talk about himself. I got tired of it and punched out.

Yeah, that's ultimately the motivation for most digital media personalities.

 

[hawkinn3]

I enjoyed his last pod on Iowa Everywhere. But I stopped consuming his content a few years ago. Its seemed to me that Jon just talks about Jon. Iowa football was a canvas for him to talk about himself. I got tired of it and punched out.

Ultimately I’m happy he moved on. I felt we lost some colorful posters for unjustified reasons.

 

[InGoodCo]

I appreciate where the constraints on the O come from, but it has NEVER been this bad for this long under KF.

We were 99th in OFEI in 2007 (the earliest year for which we have data, and the tail-end of KF's first dip), but we bounced back with 30th in 2008.

It stunk in 2012 (103rd), but it improved over the next few years (72nd in 2013, 63rd in 2014, and 39th in 2015).

People ranted about Davis' last year in 2016 (60th OFEI), but that was following 39th in 2015, and we were decent when Brian took over in 2017 (44th).

Here is what Brian has done the last 4 years (we was decent his first 3, but looking back, we had a lot of offensive talent to work with):
2020: 64th
2021: 92nd
2022: 102nd
2023: 107th

There has never been a stretch in KF's career that even approaches how bad things have been over the last 30 games (2021 through present). Looking at that trajectory, and knowing that we have just doubled and quadrupled and 16xupled down...man, that takes a toll. There is no upside in staying on our path. A new play caller might not make a difference, but things have been busted for 3 seasons, and a change MUST be made. We have a former OC on staff as a consultant, he has been around the team for 2 years, it would not be a stretch to make a move.

Iowas yard per play rushing has been terrible since Shonne Greene’s final year. That spans 3 OC’s and takes the Doyle effect out of the equation. Players change, coaches don’t. It’s scheme, you could put a muppet in the OC slot, it’s not going to change how Iowa operates. It’s our coach, it’s always been our coach, it’s worked, it’s not working anymore and the only thing that changes Iowa’s offense is a new coach.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

Outcomes are influenced by many factors outside of our control: quality of opponent and luck being the 2 big ones.

We need to control what we can control, which is the processes that put the team in position to compete. One of our processes has been busted for 30 straight games, and we are ignoring it because an elite D and ST have carried us to success against a weak schedule. Fix the problem.

Luck...no. "Luck"...what ever that means...is rarely the difference in a game. Good teams tend to get "lucky" a lot more than bad teams.
But you're spot on with the second paragraph. A fundemental part of these team has been broken, and for some time. Worse yet, the CEO seems to be completely in denial of it.

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

Total wishful thinking from Jon. He doesn’t have any insider info. He’s grasping at straws. The only way we see change is if Kirk willingly retires. MAYBE we move on from Brian, but the offense won’t improve.