I fully appreciate the idea that the backup QB would be better than the starter; I heard that a lot from ISU faithful after the NDSU game. However, from the team that was presented on Saturday, I would take most of ISU's roster - especially the skill positions. From there, we might have to agree to disagree as, it appears, you would take most of Iowa's.
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I fully appreciate the idea that the backup QB would be better than the starter; I heard that a lot from ISU faithful after the NDSU game. However, from the team that was presented on Saturday, I would take most of ISU's roster - especially the skill positions. From there, we might have to agree to disagree as, it appears, you would take most of Iowa's.
SpecialKHawk
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First sitting through that game I can tell you that I saw two crappy teams one of which was worse offensively than the other. The better team won.
Second ISU gives Iowa fits because they are built like a MAC/FCS team because that is the type of ball played by many teams in the Big 12. Iowa is built for the plodding, pounding, banging play that we will see in the B1G. The two style contrasts could not be any more different because the conferences are vastly different. I am not dogging either conference or team just the reality. We play Northern football which outsiders overlook that aspect. Temps start in the heat and then plummet. The warm southern winds turn into biting northern gusts. All this plays havoc on a wide open fancy offensive attack during the course of a season. If you cannot grind it out you are in trouble. I would pay big bucks to see Baylor, Oregon, FSU, Bama? etc. come up for a game in November. They would be begging for those space heaters.
The really interesting thing is to see who can impose their style in the game. Last year we did and won. This year ISU did and won. It is really that simple. We have not been able to pound the rock on anyone this season and without a QB that can throw downfield we cannot score.
Benddontbreak
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It’s impossible for you to evaluate our talent from Saturday because our talent didn’t play.
TCU comes to Ames in early December and I'm really curious to see how they hold up.
SpecialKHawk
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Unless you get unseasonably warm weather I would bet money it is a big factor working against TCU. I am really bummed that Baylor is coming to town so early. I would love to see them play in the frigid cold in Ames and see how high flying that offense would be.
MoseSchrute
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Players still have to make plays, and not make mistakes/penalties at crucial moments. We have a QB who can't/won't make long throws, and some marginal RB's that don't see holes very well, or are too slow, or who go down too easily.
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HawkeyeDenis
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The better coached team won. They did it with lesser facilities, lesser dollars and smaller players.
Build like a MAC/FCS team? Really? Is that what you think of the Big XII? I think you WAY underestimate the Big XII. Especially since the Big XII went 3-0 against the BIG this last weekend. The Big XII is just as grueling, if not more with round robin play, as the BIG.
"Northern" football? By that I assume you mean 20th Century football. Boise St. made their name throwing the ball around and their climate isn't know for being warm. Payton Manning has had pretty good success at Denver. Heck, when Purdue was going to Rose Bowls, it was through the air, not 3 yards and a could of dust. How many passing yards did Chuck Long ammass during the heyday of Iowa football. Mangino's offense was proven at KU - again, not a tropical stop in the college football world. I don't disagree that Iowa needs to be prepared for the BIG style. However, that style of play is what currently has them at the bottom of the Power 5 conferences.
I don't know if ISU "imposed their style" on the game. They ran their offense the way they wanted to and Iowa couldn't stop it. When Iowa tried to run their "style" of offense, ISU beat them at their own game and kept them from doing so.
Lesser Facilities? Have you seen/heard about the new weight room at the football complex? I understand that Iowa is doing something new this year, but ISU has had this for a few years now. Comparing Iowa's system next year versus the current system at ISU, this is probably a draw.
Money? Check, I think. Revenue, definately, but I didn't compare FB budgets.
Smaller Players? A quick check on the stats in the 2 deep show
OL: ISU was larger by 7 lb average
TE: ISU by 12
DL: Tie
QB ISU by 13
RB: Iowa by 20+ (this is a distinct difference in schemes)
WR: Iowa by 3 lbs (I included VanDenBerg for a 3 way comparison otherwise, you could argue a 9 lb difference)
LB: Iowa by 4
DB: Iowa by 7
Looks to me that, based on weight, you could swap most of these groups for each other. What "smaller" players are you referring to?
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GoHawks24
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It's probably based on your crumbling high school stadium that holds just over 50k people vs. our legit college stadium that seats over 70k.
If you honestly believe that ISU's facilities are on-par with Iowa's, then please pass whatever it is that you are smoking, because it has to be real good ****.
AdamHawk
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Which is hilarious. Do you know how many times Texas has made the trip to Ames in Nov/Dec in the history of the conference? I'll give you a hint: it's less than 1. Crazy how they bow down to one team in that conference - although they are probably the sole reason the B12 still exists.
So, what capacity is considered "legit"?
We may need to call Oregon, Baylor, Oregon State, Maryland, Minnesota, etc. to tell them that their stadiums aren't "legit".
If you really think that the new state of the art football training facility at ISU isn't on par with what Iowa has today, you aren't being fair or honest with yourself. It has recieved rave reviews, been compared to the best of the Big XII facilities, and even one comment that it was better than what the Seattle Seahawks have.
