Jok playing himself up the depth chart

Heck, even Ellingson is ahead of JO today, he's 1/1 for 3. JO is a disappointment, we can just hope he comes alive on some key games, that's all I hope for him this senior season.
 
I'd rather Josh struggle at this point of the season instead of during the crucial conference games down the stretch. Josh is a big part of this team and will carry us when he gets hot in a few games this year
 
LaoHawk said:
Heck, even Ellingson is ahead of JO today, he's 1/1 for 3. JO is a disappointment, we can just hope he comes alive on some key games, that's all I hope for him this senior season.
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That's what I'm thinking too. Hopefully he can get hot for a game or 2 at the right time and help us get a couple wins we wouldn't have. He just has to work too hard to even get a shot off for it to be effective.
 
What i hate about jok is he usually is lost on defense, did it look better today? Or how about bradys defense? Thats probably why josh is ahead not just cause hes a senior.
 
Missed the game. Glad to hear that Jok might have got back in the groove....

We really will need the threat he should present to our opponets....

I also hope Josh get his stroke back. He is valuable in other ways, but we need his long range shooting. His passing is very good, very few turnovers, handles the ball well and can rebound. Just need him to score....

He does have two to the best passes this season. The pass a while ago to Uthoff at the rim and the pass to Olaseni at North Carolina for the dunk. Even Vitale liked that one.....

:rolleyes:
 
It really is difficult to take much away from a thirty point blow out. Make those three pointers in a one or two point game against top competition then you are talking. A player can relax knowing that even if they miss your going to win the game but the nerves show themselves if it's crunch time and a missed shot could be the difference between a win and a loss. The shooting in that North Carolina game was just ugly by both teams. I will give credit to both teams for playing great defense which no doubt played a big part in poor shooting performance.

I do hope that Jok is now coming alive with his shooting as we really need a guard to step forward and present a challenge for opponents with their outside shooting. Ellingson looks very promising at this time.
 
BigD said:
It really is difficult to take much away from a thirty point blow out. Make those three pointers in a one or two point game against top competition then you are talking. A player can relax knowing that even if they miss your going to win the game but the nerves show themselves if it's crunch time and a missed shot could be the difference between a win and a loss. The shooting in that North Carolina game was just ugly by both teams. I will give credit to both teams for playing great defense which no doubt played a big part in poor shooting performance. I do hope that Jok is now coming alive with his shooting as we really need a guard to step forward and present a challenge for opponents with their outside shooting. Ellingson looks very promising at this time.
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I think Jok is actually under a lot of pressure to make shots to prove himself. That pressure can be almost as bad as the late pressure to win a game. I'm hoping this was a big step in him becoming a constant contributer.
 
PCHawk said:
Ellingson is 3 for 4 on the year now.
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Without exaggeration, Brady might be our best 3 point shooter. He isn't a skinny needs 10 lbs freshman, either. If he stays healthy and can withstand a full season, he just may be the answer. I hope his foot injury isn't a chronic or recurring issue.
 
I like Peter and Josh but Peter isnt pkaying himself up the chart. Fran has Peter at the 3 so if he isnt liking Uthoff then he comes in for him. Every time Peter goes in first it's at the 3. Josh goes in at the 2 so no, Peter isn't passing Josh. Yes I agree he's playing better after today but it's not related to him being the first one off the bench.
 
smhawk said:
What i hate about jok is he usually is lost on defense, did it look better today? Or how about bradys defense? Thats probably why josh is ahead not just cause hes a senior.
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He worked hard on defense and got some steals. He also tried to feed the post even when he was shooting so well. I think the offense is starting to click for him.
 
BoWallace said:
I like Peter and Josh but Peter isnt pkaying himself up the chart. Fran has Peter at the 3 so if he isnt liking Uthoff then he comes in for him. Every time Peter goes in first it's at the 3. Josh goes in at the 2 so no, Peter isn't passing Josh. Yes I agree he's playing better after today but it's not related to him being the first one off the bench.
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I get your logic but if he gets more minutes, it's probably going to be at the expense of Josh's minutes.
 
ArvadaHawk said:
Without exaggeration, Brady might be our best 3 point shooter. He isn't a skinny needs 10 lbs freshman, either. If he stays healthy and can withstand a full season, he just may be the answer. I hope his foot injury isn't a chronic or recurring issue.
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He very well could be. It's not like it would take much right now.
 
BlacknGold19 said:
I'd rather Josh struggle at this point of the season instead of during the crucial conference games down the stretch. Josh is a big part of this team and will carry us when he gets hot in a few games this year
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I'm just fine with whatever, it's nutty to depend on him as a huge part of a team going in to the season. If he does well, great.

There was a time when I would be happy to never see him on the court again because for so long it seemed that whenever he was in there he'd chuck up a brick and we would wasted possessions with his misses. Then last year he had some very good games and proved his worth. So, we'll see...
 
Foval21 said:
He worked hard on defense and got some steals. He also tried to feed the post even when he was shooting so well. I think the offense is starting to click for him.
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He shot the ball well and did OK on the other facets of offense. But steals is NOT defense. Defense is getting into a position so your man doesn't do what he wants to do but instead does what YOU want him to do. Steals almost always occur because someone else played good defense and forced a bad pass.
 
Knight78 said:
He shot the ball well and did OK on the other facets of offense. But steals is NOT defense. Defense is getting into a position so your man doesn't do what he wants to do but instead does what YOU want him to do. Steals almost always occur because someone else played good defense and forced a bad pass.
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Not to defend Jok's defense, but I think steals are a big part of defense. Stepping into the passing lane and getting the steal instead of getting beat takes timing. Look at White and how he creates havoc getting into the passing lane. That's defense.
 
ForeverHawk said:
Not to defend Jok's defense, but I think steals are a big part of defense. Stepping into the passing lane and getting the steal instead of getting beat takes timing. Look at White and how he creates havoc getting into the passing lane. That's defense.
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Agreed. I don't know how one can think that playing the passing lanes ins't good defense. It is taught from day 1 to stay between your man and the ball handler to prevent the pass to your man. It is defense 101, and if you can bait the pass to your guy and steal it, that is very good defense.
 
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