JoePa denies QB's request to transfer





Not clear from the story. According to the story, the kid's Dad said he was only interested in playing at the FBS level. "We were under the impression he would get a release and find himself in a better situation."
 








If that is true then I dont blame JoePa one bit.

my thoughts exactly. Only caught the tail end of the segment though so i'm not 100% sure. They said something about Nebraska essentially being in the big ten, then talked about joepa's decision not to release Bolden
 


Not clear it was Nebraska or any other B10 school. According to a separate story, the kid's Dad said there had been contacts through "third parties" from about 20 other schools.

The Paterno acolytes here can worship him all you wish. IMHO it comes across as petty and vindictive to not let an unhappy athlete seek a new start elsewhere at a school not on your competition schedule. Typical Paterno, unfortunately.

A look at Penn State true freshman quarterback Rob Bolden's options | PennLive.com
 


Not clear it was Nebraska or any other B10 school. According to a separate story, the kid's Dad said there had been contacts through "third parties" from about 20 other schools.

The Paterno acolytes here can worship him all you wish. IMHO it comes across as petty and vindictive to not let an unhappy athlete seek a new start elsewhere at a school not on your competition schedule. Typical Paterno, unfortunately.

A look at Penn State true freshman quarterback Rob Bolden's options | PennLive.com

I dont worship Paterno one bit and actually think he should have retired years ago. All I am saying is if it is true that Bolden had planned to transfer to Nebraska then JoePa did the right thing in denying him.

KF would do the same thing and so would every other coach in America. The right thing would be for JoePa to release him with the stipulation that he cannot go to another Big 10 school or Nebraska.
 


Not clear it was Nebraska or any other B10 school. According to a separate story, the kid's Dad said there had been contacts through "third parties" from about 20 other schools.

The Paterno acolytes here can worship him all you wish. IMHO it comes across as petty and vindictive to not let an unhappy athlete seek a new start elsewhere at a school not on your competition schedule. Typical Paterno, unfortunately.

A look at Penn State true freshman quarterback Rob Bolden's options | PennLive.com

Totally disagree. He signed on to play. Things didn't go his way, so he's quitting. Sorry but there's a cost to signing your name on a de facto contract. This is actually a cheap cost to what could have been an incredibly expensive lesson. I have no problem with JoePa holding him to it.
 


I dont worship Paterno one bit and actually think he should have retired years ago. All I am saying is if it is true that Bolden had planned to transfer to Nebraska then JoePa did the right thing in denying him.

KF would do the same thing and so would every other coach in America. The right thing would be for JoePa to release him with the stipulation that he cannot go to another Big 10 school or Nebraska.

Why is it the right thing to do? Bolden is boning over the school & program and renegging on his letter of intent. Why should PSU make a guarantee it will pay his college costs if it gets no guarantee in return? It leaves PSU (already shorthanded at QB) thin as paper.
 


The kid got a start as a true freshman for the first 8 games, got hurt and then lost the starting job. Newsflash. It happens. If he's ready to pick up his toys and go home already, he has nothing invested in Penn State. If that's the case, maybe JoePa would be smart to let him go outside of the Big Ten. That said, I love JoePa and make no bones about it. If he thinks he's making the right decision, so be it.
 


Why is it the right thing to do? Bolden is boning over the school & program and renegging on his letter of intent. Why should PSU make a guarantee it will pay his college costs if it gets no guarantee in return? It leaves PSU (already shorthanded at QB) thin as paper.

Maybe I should not have said right thing. The more common thing for JoePa to do is release him with the stipulation that he cannot go to another Big 10 school or Nebraska.

I agree with your point though. Even though I could not care less how thin PSU is at QB.
 


Go through the long list of releases and transfers from the Iowa football and basketball programs and then answer whether you think Barta/Ferentz/Lickliter/Alford were right or wrong. By your reasoning, should Jewell Hampton still be a Hawkeye? Brandon Wegher? Jake Kelly? Jeff Peterson? David Palmer? I could go on.
 
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Go through the long list of releases and transfers from the Iowa football and basketball programs and then answer whether you think Barta/Ferentz/Lickliter/Alford were right or wrong. By your reasoning, should Jewell Hampton still be a Hawkeye?

Im not saying they are wrong for releasing them. They really have no choice but to release kids that want to leave.

It is just the nature of the beast that is college athletics. If our coaches take a stand and refuse to release kids that just becomes one more thing that opposing coaches will use against us in recruiting.

Do I like when it happens? No. Do I think the coaches do the right thing by releasing kids that request it? Absolutely.
 


Go through the long list of releases and transfers from the Iowa football and basketball programs and then answer whether you think Barta/Ferentz/Lickliter/Alford were right or wrong. By your reasoning, should Jewell Hampton still be a Hawkeye? Brandon Wegher? Jake Kelly? Jeff Peterson? David Palmer? I could go on.

1. Not really a BBall guy so I don't know the circumstances of those transfers. As for Hampton, KF said his leaving was "a mutual decision", meaning both parties wanted out. We don't know about Wegher, but I bet that KF told him he needed to either suit up or lose the scholarship. He probably couldn't commit to that so it was time to part ways. We don't know, but if he's playing for Nebby next year, then I say KF screwed up.

2. I agree that there are certain circumstances where it is the right thing to do to let someone out of their deal (like a new coach coming in that didn't even recruit the player). However, the Bolden situation is that he's upset about not playing and he simply wants to bail. Sorry, but that's a situation where the right thing is to say tough nooggies. Strap it on and compete to start here or you have to "pay your buyout" (you have the right to leave but have to sit out next year.)
 


1. Not really a BBall guy so I don't know the circumstances of those transfers. As for Hampton, KF said his leaving was "a mutual decision", meaning both parties wanted out. We don't know about Wegher, but I bet that KF told him he needed to either suit up or lose the scholarship. He probably couldn't commit to that so it was time to part ways. We don't know, but if he's playing for Nebby next year, then I say KF screwed up.

2. I agree that there are certain circumstances where it is the right thing to do to let someone out of their deal (like a new coach coming in that didn't even recruit the player). However, the Bolden situation is that he's upset about not playing and he simply wants to bail. Sorry, but that's a situation where the right thing is to say tough nooggies. Strap it on and compete to start here or you have to "pay your buyout" (you have the right to leave but have to sit out next year.)

I seriously doubt Wegher can transfer to any Big Ten school without sitting a year AND not being allowed on scholarship.
 


I seriously doubt Wegher can transfer to any Big Ten school without sitting a year AND not being allowed on scholarship.

I doubt he can either. I don't think any of us know the details on his release or where he intends to finish school/play football. My point was that he's in a different situation than Bolden, but the more and more his situation resembles Bolden, the more and more KF should have said he wasn't going to allow that.
 


I cannot picture an Iowa coach ever denying a player's request to go to another (non-conference) school to start over.

Stay classy, Joe.

Penn State's Joe Paterno denies QB Rob Bolden's request to transfer - ESPN

I actually think this is great. Its because Paterno is at his age and position that comes from all that he has done that he can make this stand which is one i guarantee you hundreds of other college coaches would love to be able to make. A student athlete goes through hopefully a rigourous process to figure out where they want to be spending the next 1-5 years of their life (depending on ability level- i.e. can they go pro, and their educational persuits). This kid wants to quit a place he made a commitment too because he faced a little adversity this season and got benched cause he was doing as well as is expected. What kind of a lesson do kids get taught if when they screwup and get benched they can go cry and quit and try somewhere else where they won't have to earn anything. It's a joke that student athletes can get out of their contracts so easily, and thats what they are, contracts.

What kind of a lesson is "you didn't get your way, cry about it and run, just quit and try something else or somewhere else." My kid falls off their bike once I don't pick up off the ground and go welp we better buy you a skateboard instead. This is great. I actually think its Paternos way of making a point to the whole collegiate atmosphere in what will probably be his last year as head coach. He's taking a stand on something he obviously thinks is wrong with the college atmosphere, or at least with this one kid.

He wouldn't have started him the first 5-6 games or whatever as a freshman if he didn't believe in him, maybe he thinks he's doing the kid a favor by pushing him to prove himself instead of quitting and starting over.
 


I actually think this is great. Its because Paterno is at his age and position that comes from all that he has done that he can make this stand which is one i guarantee you hundreds of other college coaches would love to be able to make. A student athlete goes through hopefully a rigourous process to figure out where they want to be spending the next 1-5 years of their life (depending on ability level- i.e. can they go pro, and their educational persuits). This kid wants to quit a place he made a commitment too because he faced a little adversity this season and got benched cause he was doing as well as is expected. What kind of a lesson do kids get taught if when they screwup and get benched they can go cry and quit and try somewhere else where they won't have to earn anything. It's a joke that student athletes can get out of their contracts so easily, and thats what they are, contracts.

What kind of a lesson is "you didn't get your way, cry about it and run, just quit and try something else or somewhere else." My kid falls off their bike once I don't pick up off the ground and go welp we better buy you a skateboard instead. This is great. I actually think its Paternos way of making a point to the whole collegiate atmosphere in what will probably be his last year as head coach. He's taking a stand on something he obviously thinks is wrong with the college atmosphere, or at least with this one kid.

He wouldn't have started him the first 5-6 games or whatever as a freshman if he didn't believe in him, maybe he thinks he's doing the kid a favor by pushing him to prove himself instead of quitting and starting over.

This. At first I kind of scratched my head. But this is an excellent chance to teach Bolden an important life lesson. That's something that good college coaches tend to do. They aren't just coaches.
 




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