lightning1
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It's deserved. Do whatever you can to get the best talent. Don't stop recruiting a kid just because he commits. KF has all the time in the world to marginalize and under-utilize the kid once he's on campus.
Jestin Jacobs Sticks with Iowa, Turns Down Home-State Buckeyes
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lightning1
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I'd make an exception for a stand up LB/DE Lawrence Taylor type.
lightning1
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This^. You better have a stout NT to run a 3-4 defense. And you better have bigger DEs that can play run and pass. There's a reason why College teams don't run very much 3-4 successfully. There aren't many NTs that fit this description out there and God forbid the one that you do have, gets injured.
HawkleberryFinn
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Jestin Jacobs and Jayden McDonald will make one hell of a LB tandem. Just need one more "athletic" LB. They'll take the hawks to the NC, then leave for the NFL before the game is played. It's the new way of the world. George HW Bush's NWO!!
I think Dillon Doyle has a shot at being real good. He'll battle with Jones for the MIKE spot this spring.
I was just going to suggest putting him inbetween those 2 guys. Colbert has looked ok too. We are in good shape for awhile at LB I think. Just gotta coach em up
ShockHawk22
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Coaching staff deserves a lot of credit for this class. Jacobs, Goodson and Padilla all received late flip Intrest and the coaching staff established enough of a relationship to hold them all off. Great job
Definitely a good situation to have. If anyone in the projected middle grows or otherwise works out better at, turn them into a Von Miller.
Many times Hayden's 5-2-4 was really a 3-4-4 where they showed a 5 man front. It looked like a 5-2-4 but those edge guys were sometimes only 220 pounds. they mostly had 4 guys with their hand on the ground but one linebacker like an Ennis-Inge was not that heavy so he could drop in the flat or rushed most of the time. And on the other side they would have another hybrid lineman-lbkr at about 240-5 in those days who could also cover, rush the passer and play the run. I came up blank on our big pass rushing sacking end back in 90-91.
Some other years if Fry didnt have so many talented hybrid guys, he had more quality Dee LInemen, he might run a more standard 4-3-4.
in 2013 we had the quickness and plain better speed at Lbkr with a lot of experience . Hitchens and Kirksey still starting in the NFL did some great blitzing that year. Hitchens has gained weight so he is more inside right now but it is 5 years later.
Back in the 60s-70s they called a player like Hooker not a free safety but a monster back. A guy with linebacker abilities who can really run and they did a lot of spying on the other teams best offensive player. They could be an edge linemen to the strong side of the field or linebacker and acted as antoher strong safety who mainly had responsibility for one opponent on many plays.
HawkleberryFinn
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Kyle "Bonecrusher" Williams was the highest rated LB recruit under Ferentz. He left the team after a few practices and raped/assualted some people at Purdue. He's now bonecrushin in prison.
karras
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Leroy Smith? 6' 220 All-American
Lead the conference in sacks
Prep All-American RB IIRC
Yes Yes Yes, and I have watched some of the games he was in on you tube recently but I had a brain cramp. Smith was awesome, a linebacker playing end also. I think it was those Rodgers QBed teams that won the Big 10 one year, had the great long march comeback TD at Michigan, and finished like 9-1-1 the next year. Two great years
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Northside Hawk
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Wade's father Bum Phillips was briefly an assistant under Fry at SMU probably around 1963-64 before a long NFL career as an assistant, then head coach. Bum was also a proponent of the 3-4 and in his Houston Oilers years had arguably the best NT of all time, Curley Culp. Not sure exactly how much defense Bum learned from Hayden but he was just as colorful. "Three holding penalties on one football team in a quarter and a half? It's not funny!"
HawkeyeWalker
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Add Niemann in there as well. LB could be a solid, deep group.
lightning1
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Agreed. I think this is the result of the early signing period as well. All of these programs would have waited until Feb 1st to try and poach these guys, after their #1 targets committed to other programs. Now they are forced to offer them before the early signing period and it makes it harder for these coaches to explain how they won't still take their #1 targets in Feb. I love the early signing period. Now these snake oil salesmen can't swoop in at the last minute and screw us over.
Wow, I never thought of it like that.
You are right, it helps the player as well, because when schools put out 300 offers for 20-25 spots, these kids all know that if someone higher up on their board commits, they could be out of an offer.
It wouldn't even have to be at your particular position. Because they may say, these groups are what we need. Lb, rb DB. But in all those offers and set amount of scholarships, do they take a 5star #1 DB or a 3 star #80 rb? I would bet 9 times out of 10, beings all 3 groups needed attention they take the DB in that situation.
So there is a lot to be said about how Iowa offers and commits to players. You are always going to have some of it at every school in every level, but you know the OSU and Alabama schools are pretty much 100% that way. Snake oil.
