Jay Scheel

[hawkfarmer]

Iowa has rarely kept instate skill position players in the last decade. Easier to keep the big boys at home, but the skill position players see the opportunities at the SEC schools etc or Michigans and I can understand that. Iowa needs to do a better job with their skill players to get other skill players to come. That is chicken or the egg, but that's how it is. Unfortunately the hawks don't have as much to offer right now IMO as even ISU in the skill regard. And LSU can play for titles.

 

[LG210]

Would you choose Iowa over ISU if you were a mobile qb? Especially if Iowa was trying to recruit you as a receiver given we haven't turned out very many good receivers.

Brad Banks was runner-up for the Heisman, so I would give Iowa serious consideration if I were a mobile high school QB.

 

[hawkfarmer]

Brad Banks was runner-up for the Heisman, so I would give Iowa serious consideration if I were a mobile high school QB.

10 years ago, and hasn't used one since. They have tried to turn every other mobile QB recruit into a different position.

Solomon= WR
McNutt= WR
Derby= LB

I'm sure I missed some too, but ISU brings them in as QBs and keeps them at QB and utilizes them in their system. Now, not saying Iowa wouldn't change to accomodate, because I think they would, but to say because of Banks (the kid was 6 or 7 that season) Iowa has an equal playing field is funny. The kid may not even want to play QB in college who knows (it may not be a hold up like it was for Derby).

 

[hawkfan2679]

10 years ago, and hasn't used one since. They have tried to turn every other mobile QB recruit into a different position.

Solomon= WR
McNutt= WR
Derby= LB

I'm sure I missed some too, but ISU brings them in as QBs and keeps them at QB and utilizes them in their system. Now, not saying Iowa wouldn't change to accomodate, because I think they would, but to say because of Banks (the kid was 6 or 7 that season) Iowa has an equal playing field is funny. The kid may not even want to play QB in college who knows (it may not be a hold up like it was for Derby).

To be fair...I think ISU had a couple guys that came in as QB's move to other positions too, if it meant they were going to see the field. I would imagine the chances of Solomon, McNutt, or Derby ever seeing the field at QB in a non-mop up role were going to be slim, which is why they got moved. In that vein, I think the ISU guy who made the big catch late in the '07 game (against our LB) was a converted QB (Bates, maybe?). We also got beat a couple times by Jerome Tiller this past weekend, who for a while was in the race for a starting position at QB.

 

[hawkfarmer]

To be fair...I think ISU had a couple guys that came in as QB's move to other positions too, if it meant they were going to see the field. I would imagine the chances of Solomon, McNutt, or Derby ever seeing the field at QB in a non-mop up role were going to be slim, which is why they got moved. In that vein, I think the ISU guy who made the big catch late in the '07 game (against our LB) was a converted QB (Bates, maybe?). We also got beat a couple times by Jerome Tiller this past weekend, who for a while was in the race for a starting position at QB.

Yes I know this, but they aren't getting beat out by pocket passers. Not all guys can stick I get that, but they only recruit mobile QBs that can pass, thus some stick and some don't. the difference is that they still have a mobile QB while Iowa gets Nathan Chandler and JVB and moves McNutt to WR etc.

There is a distinct difference in the two teams in that manner.

 

[hawkfan2679]

10-4...I'm picking up what you are putting down now.