Jarrod Uthoff: Coincidence, Probably Not - Sportsillustrated

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Coincidence? Probably not: Jarrod Uthoff is the most famous redshirt freshman in America thanks to the publicity from his transferring-out-of-Wisconsin saga, which became a major Internet (then radio, then TV) debate topic during a slow news week in April. Badgers coach Bo Ryan took heat for the way it was handled at the start -- having too many restrictions and giving one rough interview -- but the curious ending didn't get enough attention. After UW pared down its transfer restrictions to the standard anywhere-but-our-conference plan, Uthoff chose ... to still go to a Big Ten school, Iowa, and pay his own way for a year. And a few of the coaches re-recruiting him believed that he wanted to go home to Iowa the whole time, which raises two reasonable questions:

Did the initial breadth of UW's transfer-ban list even matter? And, given Uthoff or any related third parties were restricted from communicating with Iowa before or during the transfer process, are we supposed to believe that a top-100 recruit chose to turn down scholarship offers from Creighton, Florida, Iowa State and Marquette in favor of paying his way at Iowa, without having exchanged a single word with the staff, or getting any assurances of how he fit into the Hawkeyes' plans for 2013-14 and beyond? That's about as difficult to digest as the notion that the NCAA's transfer rules have student-athletes' best interests in mind.

(But given that the Badgers' likely starting two-guard was a somewhat controversial gift from Iowa's post-Todd Lickliter transition ... I guess things have pretty much evened out between the two schools, personnel-wise.)
 
Lots of innuendo right there, "Luke Winn". Be very careful with implying that a BoneG coach cheated, unless you have irrefutable evidence.
 
Lots of innuendo right there, "Luke Winn". Be very careful with implying that a BoneG coach cheated, unless you have irrefutable evidence.

Is anything he said incorrect? Frankly it's absurd to think that the staff didn't make some contact with him, probably through a 3rd party.
 
The story fails to mention the previous recruitment of him by the Iowa staff. He knew what they thought of him already, I don't think the needed to clarify themselves at all.
 
Who was teh clown on here that tried telling me that there is no way Fran contacted Jarrod?

Anyone who has been around high level D1 sports knows that Fran had been talking to him well prior to him "walking on". My question? Who cares. I'm glad Fran is getting his elbows dirty. We need that. Lick didn't do that and we didn't get good players. Fran is and we are getting better players. Keep it up Fran, I have no issues with you bending the rules a bit in our favor.
 
08-29-2012 11:07 AMIowaFan81
The story fails to mention the previous recruitment of him by the Iowa staff. He knew what they thought of him already, I don't think the needed to clarify themselves at all.


Good point
 
My understanding is that it would be fine for Uthoff to talk to other Iowa players about transfering to Iowa. He probably was assured indirectly about being accepted to Iowa. I'm sure he has been friends with Gesell and Woodbury for a long time. Being barred to talking with the staff isn't the same as talking to the players or the players talking to the coaches. It sounds pretty strange that they could bar him from talking to the coaches if he could only walk on in the first place.
 
The story fails to mention the previous recruitment of him by the Iowa staff. He knew what they thought of him already, I don't think the needed to clarify themselves at all.

I agree with HH: this ^.
 
The story fails to mention the previous recruitment of him by the Iowa staff. He knew what they thought of him already, I don't think the needed to clarify themselves at all.

Also the fact that he's from a town less than a half-hour away and was a fan of the team. It'd be much shadier if he decided to go somewhere halfway across the country.
 
Fran can't help it if a conversaton is overheard in an IC restaruant, or a waitress, in the know, drops a hint or two.....

:D

Excellent find, HH......

You have been carrying the load lately......
 
While I don't disagree with what he is saying, I also think it is like discussing Christmas in July. Who cares? It's been discussed to death and is old news now. I guess writing about B1G bb in August is like that though.
 
I would like to see the ncaa or anyone else try to argue that "a third party" cannot communicate with Iowa for Uthoff or anyone else. That's one of the biggest jokes I've ever read.

So Uthoff's parents are not allowed by the ncaa to speak to anyone at Iowa.
LOL

If I were his parent, I would openly say I spoke with many many people at Iowa & HOPE like hell that someone from the ncaa tried to do ANYTHING against me or my son so that I could sue them to high hell.

That can't be a rule. No way. If that is a rule, someone NEEDS to sue them.
Not in a billion years would that rule hold up in a court.
 
It would be impossible to prove and I highly doubt anyone on Wisconsin's staff even cares but it is a clear case of tampering.

Most in the know in Madison are aware that Iowa was contacting Utoff well before this news "broke" in April.
 
The story fails to mention the previous recruitment of him by the Iowa staff. He knew what they thought of him already, I don't think the needed to clarify themselves at all.

That would actually require some research and knowledge of the entire history. It's so much easier to resort to rank speculation and innuendo, which apparently passes for journalism these days.
 
It would be impossible to prove and I highly doubt anyone on Wisconsin's staff even cares but it is a clear case of tampering.

Most in the know in Madison are aware that Iowa was contacting Utoff well before this news "broke" in April.

Obviously you aren't one of the "in the know" people. Your'e just a ******* idiot like most Wisconsin fans.
 
Who was teh clown on here that tried telling me that there is no way Fran contacted Jarrod?

Anyone who has been around high level D1 sports knows that Fran had been talking to him well prior to him "walking on". My question? Who cares. I'm glad Fran is getting his elbows dirty. We need that. Lick didn't do that and we didn't get good players. Fran is and we are getting better players. Keep it up Fran, I have no issues with you bending the rules a bit in our favor.

I would wager he didn't. Someone else as a go between? Won't debate that. Fran himself? Nope
 

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