I've grown weary of Hawk5656

[HawkeyeWalker]

I voiced my concern over both CW and Bohannon before the season. I don't bash CW anymore and you know why? Because people aren't constantly coming at me or even starting threads about CW. People keep coming at me at Bohannon and picking fight with me about him. He's been bad this year, it is what it is but you can keep trying to put lipstick on a pig

And that is just it. He hasn't been bad, he's been average, with ups and downs, as a frosh. The difference is most everyone can see the upside, potential, and good things he does...this includes many analysts.

If you said he was avg but needs to improve on some things, no one would "come at you".

But...alas...

 

[Hawk5656]

And that is just it. He hasn't been bad, he's been average, with ups and downs, as a frosh. The difference is most everyone can see the upside, potential, and good things he does...this includes many analysts.

If you said he was avg but needs to improve on some things, no one would "come at you".

But...alas...

What upside does he have? He probably has the least amount of upside of any freshman on the team with his lack of size and athleticism. He's got the third worst PER on the team and we've really struggled this year so I would say he's been well below average

 

[deanvogs]

And that is just it. He hasn't been bad, he's been average, with ups and downs, as a frosh. The difference is most everyone can see the upside, potential, and good things he does...this includes many analysts.

If you said he was avg but needs to improve on some things, no one would "come at you".

But...alas...

Or if he wouldn't have spent the last 1 1/2 years ripping and trolling Jordan. Remember he told us he would be thrilled if Jordan could replace Mike's offensive production......Does he seem thrilled that Jordan is already averaging more PPG, APG, has a higher TS% and eFG% than Mike's career numbers?????

I never said he would for sure be worse than Mike offensively. I said I would be thrilled if he could come close to matching Mike's numbers because of how he was recruited, his athletic ability and his size. I don't know how his career will end up, I'm just giving my opinion on how I think it will play out and my expectations are low.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

What upside does he have? He probably has the least amount of upside of any freshman on the team with his lack of size and athleticism. He's got the third worst PER on the team and we've really struggled this year so I would say he's been well below average

^^^^Case in point. Your opinion differs from opposing coaches and unbiased analysts I've heard. I'll lean their way.

But carry on, and continue to wonder why you have people "come at you"

I don't think JBo is great, but he has shown he can be a solid pg and help his team. Needs to work on his defense, and sometimes shot selection. I'll believe he'll improve in almost every stat from where he is now, and that will be helped as the other young Iowa players improve.

Carry on.

 

[deanvogs]

^^^^Case in point.

Yeah, personally I'm happy that Jordan can come in and already do what Mike could average in 4 years offensive right out of the gate as a Fr. Some would say they would be "Thrilled" if Jordan could come close to what Mike did.

I'm also pretty happy that Jordan is 6th of all 4* PG in Orate in conference play. The gap between Jordan and say a Charlie Moore offensively so far in conference play is sizable.

 

[SteveGarvey1]

What upside does he have? of upside oHe probably has the least amount f any freshman on the team with his lack of size and athleticism. He's got the third worst PER on the team and we've really struggled this year so I would say he's been well below average

He's a better shooter and has better handles than any of them as well. Belien raved about him. JoBo will be alright.

 

[Hawk5656]

^^^^Case in point. Your opinion differs from opposing coaches and unbiased analysts I've heard. I'll lean their way.

But carry on, and continue to wonder why you have people "come at you"

I don't think JBo is great, but he has shown he can be a solid pg and help his team. Needs to work on his defense, and sometimes shot selection. I'll believe he'll improve in almost every stat from where he is now, and that will be helped as the other young Iowa players improve.

Carry on.

Opposing coaches and analysts praised Lickliter. That doesn't mean much. His stats don't lie

 

[Hawk5656]

He's a better shooter and has better handles than any of them as well. Belien raved about him. JoBo will be alright.

Considering he's the only PG I hope that would be the case. I'm not sure he's a better shooter than Moss though

 

[earlkoppelman]

When CW turns corner, jbo will be long range shooter/combo guard.SEASON is a WIP! Now win wednesday! GO HAWKS.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

Opposing coaches and analysts praised Lickliter. That doesn't mean much. His stats don't lie

Lol. And around and around we go.

I think he can improve beyond an avg player, which is what I believe he right now.

You dont. You think he's a below avg (bad) basketball player, cant get better. That's fine, but you seem to have a hard time accepting that your basically alone in that opinion.

Carry on.

 

[Hawk5656]

Lol. And around and around we go.

I think he can improve beyond an avg player. You dont. That's fine.

Carry on.

I think he can get to an average player if his role changes a bit, he will always be a liability on defense but could become a good shooter. He's below average now though

 

[SayHawkKid]

Win total is probably at about 7 right now without JBo, but when has a clown ever thought in terms of wins?

 

[Hawk5656]

Win total is probably at about 7 right now without JBo, but when has a clown ever thought in terms of wins?

Just because CW is really bad it doesn't make Jordan better than he is.

 

[Hawk5656]

Win total is probably at about 7 right now without JBo, but when has a clown ever thought in terms of wins?

Win Share per 40 minutes goes like this:

1. Jok
2. Baer
3. Pemsl
4. Kriener
5. Ellingson
6. Wagner
7. Cook
8. Bohannon
9. Moss
10. Uhl
11. Williams

The average is .100 and there is a huge drop off from the top 7 to Bohannon. Cook is .095 and Bohannon .068

 

[SteveGarvey1]

Considering he's the only PG I hope that would be the case. I'm not sure he's a better shooter than Moss though

I like Moss OK but he's a better pure shooter than IM.

 

[Hawk5656]

I like Moss OK but he's a better pure shooter than IM.

Moss has a better mid range game, both are shooting about the same from 3 and Moss is much better around the rim

 

[tweeterhawk]

Is the game here now getting all exorcised over a troll who either peddles plasix in North Carolina or stacks sheet musik in Davenport?

Asking for a friend...

 

[MiniMoeHawk]

You need help

Hello pot, this is kettle calling once again.

 

[MiniMoeHawk]

What upside does he have? He probably has the least amount of upside of any freshman on the team with his lack of size and athleticism. He's got the third worst PER on the team and we've really struggled this year so I would say he's been well below average

you should be banned just for bringing up PER all the damn time. It takes everything in me not to bang my head into a wall reading your nonsense.

 

[Hawk5656]

you should be banned just for bringing up PER all the damn time. It takes everything in me not to bang my head into a wall reading your nonsense.

What stat would you prefer I use? He shoots 34% from the floor, that's pretty bad. Can't use assists according to PC because they are unimpressive. No use bringing up PPG because he is a volume scorer so we're kind of out of options