It is pathetic...

[hawkfan2679]

According to GB and KF no additional testing was done. You can't fail what was never administered. Rumors were wrong. Unless you believe GB and KF were lying, end of story.

I don't think they were lying, I just don't think (and rightfully so) that any first time failed drug tests were to be made public.

 

[hawkfan340]

personally- i found nothing from that press conference that proved or disproved any potential "failed tests" rumors. while i will agree that it was completely reckless posting by some to get information out from "reports" (which by the way... you are not reporting... you are speculating...) there was nothing said that leads me to believe multiple student athletes didn't fail (or did not consent) to some sort of test. just because there were no suspensions, does not mean there were no failed tests.

The lines that throw up a flag to me is this- Players who refuse to be tested are considered to be guilty of a positive test. Two positive tests means an automatic suspension for 10 percent of regular-season events or postseason events. A third positive test is grounds for dismissal from the program.

This is not me saying that it did or did not happen- but to say that all these rumors have been proven to not have happened from this is pretty much as off base as many of the originally circulated rumors IMO, just not as reckless. let me also add that i'm relieved that it wasn't as bad as i originally thought it to be- hopefully we can move on and prepare for the bowl game now without anything else coming out on this subject.

There were no failed tests. There were no tests, period. If you think that GB and KF were telling the truth this morning, the rumors were concretely proven wrong.


EDIT: I'm going to backtrack a bit after reading the full transcript. The transcript says there was no additional or out of the ordinary testing done b/c of DJK's arrest, but that they ordinarily test every week. They also said that they were administering tests at the time of DJK's arrest, which was last Tuesday I believe. That seems to imply, but not specifically state, that they did not administer tests this weekend which is when these rumors place the failed tests. I stand by the conclusion that no one took or failed a test this weekend, however, by with a lawyer's eye, you could make the case that they administered testing and did not lie at the same time.

For the record, I was misinformed by the chat transcript that I read. That only had highlights from the presser and simply said they didn't do any additional testing.

 

[hawkfan340]

I don't think they were lying, I just don't think (and rightfully so) that any first time failed drug tests were to be made public.

I don't know what you mean by this exactly, but it doesn't seem like what you're saying applies to the rumors flying around the past couple days.

Here's what I do know. Rumor mill said:

- players were tested because of connections to DJK
- players failed/refused the testing
- up to 26 players were being suspended
- KF was stepping down b/c of lack of control on the program

These ended up being false, false, false, and certainly false.

EDIT: See my above comment.