ISU Recruiting Class to Date

[WinOneThisCentury]

Name Pos Ht/Wt Stars Rank
Carson Lensing TE 6-4/225 NR
Dennis Wonnum TE 6-3/219 NR

They currently have 2 two star TEs committed. I'm thinking we may need to cut KF some slack. At this point, Paw may be in a bit of trouble...as no one in the right mind would sign there.

Let's expand the stadium though. Yeah...that's the issue.

I realize we may be throwing rocks from a glass house...but it appears we are upgrading to some form of plexiglass at this point.

 

[DP5555]

This is terrible. Absolutely terrible news for ISU football. You can't blame any young football player either. They are in contention for the worst overall team out of all the Power 5 conferences. I think recruits would prefer to go to a MAC type school and win than go to an ISU type school and do nothing but lose and lose badly for their entire career.

That SEZ expansion is a joke. My younger sister will be a sophomore at ISU this fall and my younger brother will be a freshman. Both of them will have stayed in a dormitory without air conditioning their freshman years when it's all said and done. That would have been a much better use of money than expanding a stadium that is going to end up sitting empty. Poor freshman have to live in a sauna for the first month or two of school, and most of them are paying high dollars to do so. It's ridiculous.

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/news/article_b61601d0-1111-11e3-ac4e-0019bb2963f4.html

 

[GoHawks24]

And Kirk still can't beat them on a regular basis . At some point, don't you think this would **** him (Kirk) off?

 

[imported_ankle23]

clownz were ripping on an iowa verbal that they were on as he was 'only a 2 star' - the kid from chariton - then they get their first commit - and at the time of his commitment he was a '0 star' and the thread on him was quite entertaining after having read the thread on the 'only a two star guy'.........

clownz being clownz....

 

[thetrza]

I thought they added a running back from juco ranks for this fall. Either way the game keeps changing and coaches need verbals earlier and earlier even if its these kinds of kids.

 

[imported_ankle23]

I thought they added a running back from juco ranks for this fall. Either way the game keeps changing and coaches need verbals earlier and earlier even if its these kinds of kids.

they are fishing for the whales that don't bite until late january/early february.....paw working his game....

 

[DP5555]

I thought they added a running back from juco ranks for this fall. Either way the game keeps changing and coaches need verbals earlier and earlier even if its these kinds of kids.

They did get someone. They also lost a couple. No idea why any running back would want to run behind an ISU line. Especially this ISU line. ISU with Farniok last year was bad. Without Farniok it was a disaster. It's a fair assumption to believe it will be a disaster this year.

 

[BleednGumsMrphy]

Name Pos Ht/Wt Stars Rank
Carson Lensing TE 6-4/225 NR
Dennis Wonnum TE 6-3/219 NR

They currently have 2 two star TEs committed. I'm thinking we may need to cut KF some slack. At this point, Paw may be in a bit of trouble...as no one in the right mind would sign there.

Let's expand the stadium though. Yeah...that's the issue.

I realize we may be throwing rocks from a glass house...but it appears we are upgrading to some form of plexiglass at this point.

I agree KF doesnt deserve ALL the criticism he gets, but Iowa State's recruiting class should not even be close to the standard we should base ourselves on. Their crappy class has absolutely nothing to do with Hawkeye football and should not make us feel better (I am actually happy with the commitments we are currently getting though).

 

[imported_ankle23]

I agree KF doesnt deserve ALL the criticism he gets, but Iowa State's recruiting class should not even be close to the standard we should base ourselves on. Their crappy class has absolutely nothing to do with Hawkeye football and should not make us feel better (I am actually happy with the commitments we are currently getting though).

dude, it is fun ripping on isu, no matter what. seeing clownz fan fret always makes me happy - as a central iowan.....

 

[thetrza]

Imagine the press conference where he describes these guys turning down phone calls from "a school in sioux falls and another school in cedar falls" and how they kept their word because cyclones always keep their word and he is so proud of them.

 

[PCHawk]

Name Pos Ht/Wt Stars Rank
Carson Lensing TE 6-4/225 NR
Dennis Wonnum TE 6-3/219 NR

They currently have 2 two star TEs committed. I'm thinking we may need to cut KF some slack. At this point, Paw may be in a bit of trouble...as no one in the right mind would sign there.

Let's expand the stadium though. Yeah...that's the issue.

I realize we may be throwing rocks from a glass house...but it appears we are upgrading to some form of plexiglass at this point.

I don't think your entire post posted. I only see 2 guys listed.

 

[docholihawk]

ISU is really struggling right now with their recruiting and will continue to do so. They have nothing to sell to there recruits. They went from 3 wins to 2 wins and might struggle to get that this year. They've upgraded their facilities but it's more to catch up than it is to surpass anybody. Getting low ranked recruits doesn't even play into their hands. PR's development program is far from stellar. I think bringing Rhoads back just delay's the inevitable firing at the end of this year if they can afford the buyout. ISU deserves a winning football team but I can't bring myself to hope for that because after the success of the basketball team the cyfans become such huge d-bags. If their football team was a winner I'd have to lose the internet.

 

[imported_ankle23]

rhoades isn't a developer, he's a yeller. has 'passion'. fans on both side of the aisle don't see that passion comes in different packages and that some times, yelling fills the void for what is really missing - in this case, the ability to develop players.

i think the only reason paw hasn't been fired is.....wait, i thought i had it......

 

[eyekwah]

It is still early and a long time to signing day so things might change when more is known about how the season went. You have to know that there is some negative recruiting going on with any player considering ISU. The head coaching situation has to be a big factor. Will he or won't he be there after this season is over? Another factor affecting ISU recruiting is it is a Big 12 school stuck in Big Ten country. Compare the footprint of the Big Ten with the Big Twelve. It covers 11 states vs 5 for the Big 12. Of those 11 states 5 are in the top ten in population. If you are a recruit in one of those 11 states where do you want to play; against opponents you are familiar with or at a place where family can see you play? ISU is kind of in a situation where they have to wait for everyone else to build their list and then they can go after who is left. What is going to be a factor now is the 2016 admission rules for participation. Many schools are going to pass on players that won't qualify to practice or play. The pool may be bigger, but what good is it to recruit players that cannot even practice?

The one thing I have noticed is the turnover of players at ISU. They have relaxed admission requirements for many of the players in order to get better athletes, but many still do not make it because of character issues. Ames is just a hard sell. The facilities are markedly better than many places, but brick and mortar won't solve the inherent issues related to location and history. The state of Iowa really can't support two D-I power five teams. Look around our neighborhood; Missouri, Nebraska, Minnesota, and Wisconsin field only one D-I football team. You cannot argue that Kansas is able to support two. Oklahoma barely is able to, but proximity to Texas helps. Illinois struggles to support two Big Ten teams because everyone views Chicagoland as open borders. ISU will keep pressing on in the face of the obstacles.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

All I know is we had better win this game. KF's record vs isu and some of the just awful clone teams that have beaten Iowa is by far and away his biggest failure.

 

[CPHAWK82]

All I know is we had better win this game. KF's record vs isu and some of the just awful clone teams that have beaten Iowa is by far and away his biggest failure.

Amen to that. Last year was so frustrating because it didn't even feel like they did everything they could to win. Make them play even a little defense down field and it would of opened stuff up. Far too conservative on defense too which LTP even alluded to after the game. Beathard should provide the deep threat this year. As much as Iowa's recruiting has disappointed in recent years iSu's is worse and hitting a lower low this year. Kirk knows how important this game is this year and I'm hoping to see him in more of an attack mode on the road this year.

 

[DP5555]

Amen to that. Last year was so frustrating because it didn't even feel like they did everything they could to win. Make them play even a little defense down field and it would of opened stuff up. Far too conservative on defense too which LTP even alluded to after the game. Beathard should provide the deep threat this year. As much as Iowa's recruiting has disappointed in recent years iSu's is worse and hitting a lower low this year. Kirk knows how important this game is this year and I'm hoping to see him in more of an attack mode on the road this year.

That's what boggles my mind though. It was no secret ISU's defense was horrible last year and Iowa didn't even try to test it. They just kept running Weisman. Weisman left. Weisman right. Short pass to try to save the drive. Punt. It was embarrassing. Why in the hell would you not try to test the defense over the top when nothing in the running game was working? Maybe not even over the top just open up the freaking offense at the very least.

That's probably my number 1 frustration with Ferentz. He tries to fit a square peg in a round hole longer than any coach I have ever seen. The game plan isn't written in stone. It can and should be changed if it isn't working.

 

[deanvogs]

That's probably my number 1 frustration with Ferentz. He tries to fit a square peg in a round hole longer than any coach I have ever seen. The game plan isn't written in stone. It can and should be changed if it isn't working.

Ahem to this brother. This is just what frustrates me sooooo much with him. He does some things well, some things ok, but this has been killing him now for 4 years and he either can't or won't correct it. Beyond frustrating cause we could have been a 9 win team the last two years just doing this one particular thing (game planning) better than he has.

 

[DP5555]

Ahem to this brother. This is just what frustrates me sooooo much with him. He does some things well, some things ok, but this has been killing him now for 4 years and he either can't or won't correct it. Beyond frustrating cause we could have been a 9 win team the last two years just doing this one particular thing (game planning) better than he has.

And the thing is... it doesn't take a Bill Parcells to notice it. I don't claim to be a football guru. I know a lot more than the average person about football, but I know next to nothing compared a D1 coach. However, at my knowledge level I'm more than capable of noticing when something isn't working. Which means Ferentz or someone on his staff should sure as hell realize when something isn't working. They should have the know how to not only realize it, but understand what adjustments would be the most effective against the defense that they are seeing. Instead they keep doing the same thing over and over and it becomes nauseating to watch as a Hawkeye fan.

Common sense leads you to believe there is only one reason for this... pure stubbornness. Refusal to change the game plan. I personally refuse to believe they aren't intelligent enough to notice it isn't working. They wouldn't be at this level of coaching if they can't pick up on that. It's like they go into a game with the mindset that this is what we said we are going to do, this is how we prepared, this is what we practiced, so goddammit we're going to keep doing it whether or it's working or not.

 

[PCHawk]

That's what boggles my mind though. It was no secret ISU's defense was horrible last year and Iowa didn't even try to test it. They just kept running Weisman. Weisman left. Weisman right. Short pass to try to save the drive. Punt. It was embarrassing. Why in the hell would you not try to test the defense over the top when nothing in the running game was working? Maybe not even over the top just open up the freaking offense at the very least.

That's probably my number 1 frustration with Ferentz. He tries to fit a square peg in a round hole longer than any coach I have ever seen. The game plan isn't written in stone. It can and should be changed if it isn't working.

When you're playing an inferior team, taking chances is an unnecessary risk.