Is there a firebarta.com website anywhere

[olivecourt]

good points, PatAd. i'm not sure how many current players we would lose with keno, but the incoming recruiting class would be gutted. i also think that booting lick after three years (as opposed to four) would make incoming coaches wary, including keno. standard practice seems to be that coaches get five years unless they commit a bunch of violations or sleep around. four years is reasonable. right or wrong, three years will be perceived as a mighty quick hook, and if coaches feel like the AD has too short of a leash, they are going to be reluctant to come in.

 

[iahawk20]

i posted this in another thread before i saw this one. i will tweak it slightly to reflect what has been mentioned here:

i'm trying to figure out what people want barta to do here. i see three options:

1. fire lickliter right now, bring in someone else.

2. keep lickliter but be tougher in the media: "this is unacceptable, here is what lickliter has to do next year," etc. a lot of posters seem to want this, based on the eruptions that occur whenever barta supports lick in the press.

3. keep lickliter, continue to support him publicly, but speak privately about a set of conditions that must be met next year to stay to year five.

#1 assumes that we have the money to buy him out (somewhere in the three million range), that we have the money to lure another coach, that there's another coach out there that has a more promising resume than lick did when he came in, and that we would be able to lure that coach with the promise of a still-unbuilt practice facility, an unproven roster (many of whom could transfer in a coaching change), and zero fan support. this theoretical coach would also have to be cool with the fact that we booted lick after three years and that he could get the same treatment.

i have no idea what #2 is supposed to accomplish other than cause even more turmoil in the basketball program and turn off potential recruits.

#3 makes lickliter accountable for substantial improvement next year without escalating this thing into a media circus. regardless of how you feel about lickliter and the roster he is assembling, i don't see a realistic alternative.

PatAdamovicz suggests lick do #1, bringing in keno davis. even if he would come, i don't see how that represents a clear step forward for the program. first, it will mean more roster turnover-- some guys will leave. second, keno has never shown he can recruit at a major-college level, which is seems to be complaint 1a or 1b against lickliter. do you really think 10,000 people would show up next year to watch matt gatens, jarryd cole, and a bunch of jucos/late signees, just because they are running a full-court press?

Based on results I do not know how anything other than #1 is even an option at this point.

I also firmly believe Barta needs to stop the public support, it makes him and the program look clueless.

I could live with #3 if it is NCAA tourn. or bust. Four years is more than enough time. Michigan and MN were in no better shape and both of those coaches have already been to the NCAA tourney and are light years ahead of Iowa.

 

[PatrickAdamovicz]

Olivecourt, I don't see any of the incoming recruits asking for a release if the move was made. Most kids want to play in an exciting up-tempo system. Imo, these kids would relish the chance if a move to Keano was made.

 

[edgyhawk]

Given the circumstances under which Mr. Davis Davis left Iowa, why would we think that Keno would leave a pretty good gig at Providence to come back to Iowa where his father was fired from?

 

[busabus114]

Olivecourt, I don't see any of the incoming recruits asking for a release if the move was made. Most kids want to play in an exciting up-tempo system. Imo, these kids would relish the chance if a move to Keano was made.

I dont think there is any way that you could know any of the things you said in your post.
Stating opinion as fact is annoying

 

[cibula11]

If he chose to make a move after this year, I would not have a problem with it. As he is choosing to not make a move, I have no problems with it. I want to see these new kids come in with the vets and see what they can do. Year four has to be a moving in the right direction season.

All this being said, even if Iowa basketball was operating at 14,000 to 15500 a night at CHA, the percentage of revenue that sport brings in compared to that of football is exponentially smaller. At least three to one. I think Iowa men's hoops revenues in 2005 were around 10 mil. Football, at the end of the 2008 season, was just shy of 40 mil.

I think Barta feels he can 'afford' another year with Todd..and I think from a financial standpoint he can...but long term, we will see how that works and what continuing effects that may have on the program in terms of support.

Football is the engine of the athletic department. And that engine is running quite smoothly. Get that new practice facility built for football, and its steady as she goes.

Because things cannot get much worse than they are right now, for basketball. The new practice facility is under construction, which is a step in the right direction. They are at the bottom, and they can probably afford it.

Couldn't agree more. One more year is not going to make things worse in the long run. Who knows, maybe next year Lick really puts it all together.

 

[PatrickAdamovicz]

I dont think there is any way that you could know any of the things you said in your post.
Stating opinion as fact is annoying

It's just an opinion as I wrote (IMO...which means for you "in my opinion", not fact....drawing your own conclusion on another poster's words is....annoying. Besides, it's not like the incoming recruits have people beating their doors down. Heck, they could've done that already with Iowa's record and apparent future. Again, it's just an opinion....know the difference. Thanks!