Is the Super 64 NCAA Football Party Already Set?

The only way ISU makes it into a super conference is if Charles Grassley decides a super conference death panel is out to kill off the grandma of state of Iowa collegiate sports programs and threaten's to remove the NCAA's tax free status.
 
...and Zombies will roam the earth, turning our children into souless, flesheating, slaves of Satan.

Come now. Why so dramatic? Rivalry's have altered over the history of college football. Old Rivalries have developed, new rivalries have faded. It is the nature of the beast.

When conferences went to divisions, that had a bigger impact on rivalries than will happen with superconferences. At least with SCs you will play your three in-division opponents every year and then play all the other conference teams on a regularly scheduled rotating basis. As it is right now, it is pretty haphazard.

I work at a non-BCS conference, FBS school. The school won a NC in FCS. They lose millions a year now.

Believe me the system is already a have and have not system.

As far as litigation goes, the threat is already there. The BCS makes it necessary to subjectively choose the participants for a game they call the NC. That is a problem. This would allow a plus one bowl between the winners of the two bowl games between league champs. Wouldn't have to call it a NC. Although that is how it would function of course. So, it Actually might reduce the litigation threat.
 
CAARHawk said:
What if the B1G added 4 teams and aligned the divisions so that Iowa's division included 7 original members? How about if UM and MSU were put in the other division? After all, Michigan left the conference and MSU was the last original member to join.

The split would be UM, MSU, PSU, Nebby, and 4 Newcomers.

Then OSU, Wisky, Minny, Purdue, Indy, NW, Illinois, and Iowa.

Would that make you tradition folks happy?
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No...
 
So let's say we go to super conferences and they work for a while and then the revenue model changes and now almost every school has their own network and the marquee programs want more freedom in who they schedule and don't want to be tied to these large conferences anymore. At that point, what is stopping Iowa from being in the same boat ISU is in now? If they decide to move back to smaller conferences now all the tradition is gone anyway, and there really is no reason to keep Iowa around.
 
I hate to say it but these Super Conferences is going to happen. But I cannot imagine Vandy getting thrown out of the SEC, one of the few decent academic school they have, or Duke getting left out of the ACC.
 
ssckelley said:
I hate to say it but these Super Conferences is going to happen. But I cannot imagine Vandy getting thrown out of the SEC, one of the few decent academic school they have, or Duke getting left out of the ACC.
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If "super"conferences happen, the SEC sure as hell isn't going to be concerned about academics over school's football team.
 
The B1G has never had intentions to go to 16.
They wanted the best #12 they could get & now there are only two candidates that would even be considered for further expansion...Texas & ND.

Personally I don't want either but this is the list.
 
notafan said:
If/when the super conferences happen, I am almost sure that CFB will quickly drop down on my list of sports favs to watch. The rich will get richer and it will become like MLB with no salary cap.........the same power teams every year competing for the championship. Sorry, but one of the things I have loved about the college game is parity. That is becoming more and more irrelevant every year now that the almighty dollar is becoming God in amateur athletics. Good luck to the bottom feeders in the "select 64", yes Northwestern, you will get the money, but never the fame!

Side note: Northwestern = Vandy, Wash St., Wake Forest, and all the other "little" guys in the power conferences.
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JonDMiller said:
I don't see it that way for the reason I stated; the Big Ten owns its own network...and therefore they are operating from a position of supreme strength and will call every shot, and that includes keeping NW
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I didn't mean kicking them out. If you read what I said, basically stating they will be kept and recieve their portion of the money, but will never be on top because the big boys will just keep winning and making more money for going to better bowls.
 
bud2380 said:
Which is why it hasn't happened. I was trying to get a response from the poster thinking it was inevitable because it makes more money. The NCAA makes virtually no money from college football. With a playoff they would and the ability to control who gets the money would shift from the conference presidents to the NCAA. Something no BCS president wants.
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Your assuming the NCAA would be running the playoff. Your correct in that the schools do not want that.

Hence cutting out the middle man.

Eventually the ncaa will probably be cut out of college football. the 4 super conferences will provide an avenue to that end.
 
The super-conference reality is not necessarily a push by the 'fans' alone but a drive to maximize the value of the overall product.

Keep in mind that today's college athletics must be totally funded in many states including Iowa and that bell-cow football and men's basketball to a smaller degree must pay for all other men's and women's programs.

Controlling 'content' by expanding to 16 allows you to drive the price of your commodity up. That equals more money, etc. because you have a monopoly over a large geographical region and/or power programs. ESPN + Fox must have content in America's # 2 sporting activity.

Iowa, among other programs in small population states/areas or areas of minimal interest would be in the same boat as ISU had it not had been for long-term membership in the B1G. If the B1G disolves someday then we'll be in trouble also.

I'm looking forward to super-conferences myself. Give me 11 conferences games anyday over games against Lousiana-Monroe, MAC teams, etc.

11 conference games -> 7 in your division and 4 cross-over against the other 8(see all teams within a 4 year span). Then 1 non con home game. Forget paying 1 million to the Lousiana Monroe's of the world.
 
SpecialKHawk said:
Iowa, among other programs in small population states/areas or areas of minimal interest would be in the same boat as ISU had it not had been for long-term membership in the B1G. If the B1G disolves someday then we'll be in trouble also.
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That's a little like saying that if the sun stops shining, we'll be in trouble.


SpecialKHawk said:
Give me 11 conferences games anyday over games against Lousiana-Monroe, MAC teams, etc.

11 conference games -> 7 in your division and 4 cross-over against the other 8(see all teams within a 4 year span). Then 1 non con home game. Forget paying 1 million to the Lousiana Monroe's of the world.
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I'd like more conference games, too, but there's no way we're ever going to get 11. That's nonsense.
 
DwayneTwill said:
That's a little like saying that if the sun stops shining, we'll be in trouble.

I'd like more conference games, too, but there's no way we're ever going to get 11. That's nonsense.
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We play 10 now; this year's schedule for instance we play 8 B1G, 1 Big 12 and 1 Big East opponent. So you cannot play 1 more BCS level regular season game?
 
DwayneTwill said:
Right now we play eight conference games. Soon we'll be playing nine.
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How many BCS level games do we play this season and have for a number of seasons? That is the question on the table since you see it infeasible to play 11 BCS level conference opponents when a 16 team conference is formed.
 
I'm asking you a question... how many BCS level teams do we play on our schedule in almost all years up to this point?
 
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