Is Hat Party Related To KF?

[KCHawkeye]

If a writer's opinion aligns with mine = great writer
If a writer's opinion differs from mine = hack

Same as it ever was.

A lot is if they can explain themselves adequately. Includes relevant data and reason for opinion/judgement. If the data is relevant and accurate, that isn't arguable. The opinion part is always arguable.

And, I know you take a lot of guff, Jon. ;-)

 

[LG210]

A lot is if they can explain themselves adequately. Includes relevant data and reason for opinion/judgement. If the data is relevant and accurate, that isn't arguable. The opinion part is always arguable.

And, I know you take a lot of guff, Jon. ;-)

How 'bout them Royals?

 

[94HawkMA]

He's a D1 coach, top 10 ever for big 10 wins. You just don't want to believe the truth b/c it doesn't fit your distorted view of reality. There isn't a d1 coach that would sacrifice the feelings of a player over the interest of their program... But I know this will fall on your deaf ears

Right on man!

 

[doclee]

Interesting. Rather than spending the majority of the time debating the content of the article PH wrote, the bulk of the debate centers on personal attacks against PH. Sound like the deterioration of politics in the good ol' US of A! Or, tell a lie enough times and people begin to believe it, i.e., "KF is so enamored of his big $ salary that he has retired on the job."

 

[lightning1]

That's pretty hypocritical. If KF is so blind, and EVERYone can see that CJ is superior, isn't it incumbent on Rudock to voluntarily step aside?

If Rudock believes CJ is better, he should. Nothing in your comment supports that theory. In fact, Im not sure that your comment supports any rational theory. Its lack of logic is confusing at best.

 

[cecilB]

For those hanging on 2001 go back and look at the season and productivity on O. Mr McCannn got 70-80% of the snaps in the first 5 games. Banks started taking them in the next four... Culminating with 65% or so against wisky. McCann again got them in the last 4 85-100% of them.

Seriously go look at it. McCann led games had 1 over 50 points, 3 over 40. What we would do for this these days. The brad we all love wasn't that player as a junior. Seriously, look it up

 

[PCHawk]

For those hanging on 2001 go back and look at the season and productivity on O. Mr McCannn got 70-80% of the snaps in the first 5 games. Banks started taking them in the next four... Culminating with 65% or so against wisky. McCann again got them in the last 4 85-100% of them.

Seriously go look at it. McCann led games had 1 over 50 points, 3 over 40. What we would do for this these days. The brad we all love wasn't that player as a junior. Seriously, look it up

I'm confused. Those stats can make McCann out to look good but how are they making Banks look bad?
Also if the reason for not starting Banks is he wasn't ready, then why did he get less snaps at the end of the year than in the middle of the year? Did he get less ready as the year went on, then somehow turn into a stud in the off season?

 

[lightning1]

Perspective. Kent St, Miami of Ohio, Northwestern and Minny were the games you are referring to. Of course, the talent level on that 01' team was impressive
Banks/McCann
Ladell Betts/Fred Russell/Jermelle Lewis
Jeremy Allen/Aaron Mickens/Cervantes
CJ Jones/Kahlil Hill
Dallas Clark/Tony Jackson/Erik Jensen
Bruce Nelson/Gallery/Steinbach/Sobieski/McMahon/Porter/Lightfoot

Kampman/Cole/Pickens/Montgomery/Babineaux/Hodges/Luebke/Clauss/Roth
Steen/Lewis/Barr/Hodges/Greenway/Worthy
Considine/Pagel/Sanders/Sapp/Allen

Kaeding/Gallery/Bradley

 

[brhawks18]

Although I have not been a big fan of PH's stuff, I think he has absolutely nailed it in this article. At risk of being rude to those who disagree with him, the idea that KF would sacrifice what is best for the team and play favorites simply does not make any sense at all...yup, its silly. Simple fact: Its all about winning, baby.

I personally don't think KF plays favorites. What I do believe is he plays who ever fits best within his conservative system.

You know, his philosophy is to score one more point then the opponent while taking the least amount of risk. He doesn't care about winning big although that's part of the formula now.

 

[PCHawk]

I personally don't think KF plays favorites. What I do believe is he plays who ever fits best within his conservative system.

You know, his philosophy is to score one more point then the opponent while taking the least amount of risk. He doesn't care about winning big although that's part of the formula now.

It's like when Kirk calculates risks he forgets to figure in the risk of being in a close game. If we were aggressive against the ball states of the world we would probably have at least a 90% chance of winning with the 10% losses coming when the other team makes a bunch of big plays due to our aggression. Kirk must think he can eliminate to 10% by being overly conservative and not making the big mistakes that give the other team a chance. Then he somehow doesn't realize that doing this keeps the game close and gives them closer to a 33% chance of winning. Kirk is good at allot of things but playing percentages is not one of them.

 

[cecilB]

I'm confused. Those stats can make McCann out to look good but how are they making Banks look bad?
Also if the reason for not starting Banks is he wasn't ready, then why did he get less snaps at the end of the year than in the middle of the year? Did he get less ready as the year went on, then somehow turn into a stud in the off season?

Because of Michigan and Wisconsin. He hurt the Hawks against Mich. He killed the Hawks in the wisky game. It was really that simple. He flashed, got more rope(plays), hung himself and the team. McCann finished strong. Now, in total fairness, we got point from units other than the o that year...and the next several.

Drop off in special teams play from those days is dramatic

 

[PCHawk]

Because of Michigan and Wisconsin. He hurt the Hawks against Mich. He killed the Hawks in the wisky game. It was really that simple. He flashed, got more rope(plays), hung himself and the team. McCann finished strong. Now, in total fairness, we got point from units other than the o that year...and the next several.

Drop off in special teams play from those days is dramatic

He helped the team against Michigan more than he hurt them. I don't really remember the Wisconsin game but if one bad game was reason to not play then no one would be able to.

 

[cecilB]

Play by plays and full stats are out there. Believe what you want

 

[HobbieHawk]

He helped the team against Michigan more than he hurt them. I don't really remember the Wisconsin game but if one bad game was reason to not play then no one would be able to.

This is true. BB was moving the ball better than KM that day against Michigan.
But after he stepped OB short of the 1st down marker he was benched the rest of the day.
Seemed like he was being punished at the expense of a win

 

[cecilB]

You guys are insufferable. Revisionist history based on faulty memory and emotion-yeh absolutely. Facts, play by plays, stats, players own comments about readiness- what No, Ferentz sucks , McCann sucks, everyone should quit, who would blame them.

All I know is I'm glad Brad Banks realized he had plenty to learn, worked hard, didn't quit... Because that is what made 2002, not any snub that drunk fans thought might have happened in 2001.

Again, play by plays, stats are out there on that thing called the internet if you're struggling with the memory

 

[NCHawker]

Perspective. Kent St, Miami of Ohio, Northwestern and Minny were the games you are referring to. Of course, the talent level on that 01' team was impressive
Banks/McCann
Ladell Betts/Fred Russell/Jermelle Lewis
Jeremy Allen/Aaron Mickens/Cervantes
CJ Jones/Kahlil Hill
Dallas Clark/Tony Jackson/Erik Jensen
Bruce Nelson/Gallery/Steinbach/Sobieski/McMahon/Porter/Lightfoot

Kampman/Cole/Pickens/Montgomery/Babineaux/Hodges/Luebke/Clauss/Roth
Steen/Lewis/Barr/Hodges/Greenway/Worthy
Considine/Pagel/Sanders/Sapp/Allen

Kaeding/Gallery/Bradley

on a different note .....lots of good players....most. recruited in the midst of bad seasons...interesting

 

[PCHawk]

You guys are insufferable. Revisionist history based on faulty memory and emotion-yeh absolutely. Facts, play by plays, stats, players own comments about readiness- what No, Ferentz sucks , McCann sucks, everyone should quit, who would blame them.

All I know is I'm glad Brad Banks realized he had plenty to learn, worked hard, didn't quit... Because that is what made 2002, not any snub that drunk fans thought might have happened in 2001.

Again, play by plays, stats are out there on that thing called the internet if you're struggling with the memory

So what do you think Banks did in the off season to make such a remarkable improvement? We lost one game early in '02 and almost lost a couple more. His improvement came as the year went on and he got game experience. That experience could have come the previous year. Not sure why you hate Banks so much. Did he get with your girl or something?

 

[lightning1]

on a different note .....lots of good players....most. recruited in the midst of bad seasons...interesting

Several of those players recruited by.....Bielema.

 

[cecilB]

So what do you think Banks did in the off season to make such a remarkable improvement? We lost one game early in '02 and almost lost a couple more. His improvement came as the year went on and he got game experience. That experience could have come the previous year. Not sure why you hate Banks so much. Did he get with your girl or something?

The same thing all players do you dunce...studied the offense, mentored by our crappy coaches, lifted, built chemistry with teammates, timing with receivers. How you infer I don't like Brad, well I don't get that. Had one of the best seasons we'll see in a lifetime, humble kid, there is nothing not to like. What I don't like is stupidity, people making crap up,and blind and off base ridicule of my program...yes I said my, as I support it, was part of it. What happened that year speaks for itself... As does what happened the next year. When we were scoring, when we struggled, how we competed.Brad is among the greatest Hawks ever, and his play is just part of it

 

[PCHawk]

The same thing all players do you dunce...studied the offense, mentored by our crappy coaches, lifted, built chemistry with teammates, timing with receivers. How you infer I don't like Brad, well I don't get that. Had one of the best seasons we'll see in a lifetime, humble kid, there is nothing not to like. What I don't like is stupidity, people making crap up,and blind and off base ridicule of my program...yes I said my, as I support it, was part of it. What happened that year speaks for itself... As does what happened the next year. When we were scoring, when we struggled, how we competed.Brad is among the greatest Hawks ever, and his play is just part of it

Jeez Kyle, no need to call me names.