Is Hat Party Related To KF?

Odd article going out of his way to defend Ferentz. Has to be the worst sportswriter ever.


http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...28/pat-harty-ferentz-play-favorites/16403127/

Meh. Go over to Rob Howe's site. He has a similar article that he wrote. If you ask me, this is bye week babble. These guys are journalists and their "job" is to present both sides of a topic and allow everyone else to argue. That's why I respect Jon, as he's a fan. Sure he'll hedge at times, but usually it seems because he doesn't want to "reach" at something. Otherwise, he'll give you what he thinks.

It is coincidental that two different writers come up with the same slant. It is more likely journalism 101.
 
I agree - very biased and brown nosing article about Ferentz. Not objective at all. Referring to the notion that Ferentz would ever play favorites as being "silly," while in the very next paragraph justifying why Ferentz benched Brad Banks the year before he was the best player in college football. There is no way to put lipstick on that pig.
 
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Reading Rob's articles is like eating boiled potatoes without gravy or even salt. Sorry Rob.
 
I agree - very biased and brown nosing article about Ferentz. Not objective at all. Referring to the notion that Ferentz would ever play favorites as being "silly," while in the very next paragraph justifying why Ferentz Brad Banks the year before he was the best player in college football.

He's a D1 coach, top 10 ever for big 10 wins. You just don't want to believe the truth b/c it doesn't fit your distorted view of reality. There isn't a d1 coach that would sacrifice the feelings of a player over the interest of their program... But I know this will fall on your deaf ears
 
Teh facts are that Ferentz has kept a less experienced, more talented player on the bench in favor of a less talented player with more experience. He's in practice and I am not, so I guess he knows what he is doing.

That said, young guys do get their shot in this program... I see a lot of Freshmen out there..especially over the last 5 years or so.
 
He's a D1 coach, top 10 ever for big 10 wins. You just don't want to believe the truth b/c it doesn't fit your distorted view of reality. There isn't a d1 coach that would sacrifice the feelings of a player over the interest of their program... But I know this will fall on your deaf ears


Although I have not been a big fan of PH's stuff, I think he has absolutely nailed it in this article. At risk of being rude to those who disagree with him, the idea that KF would sacrifice what is best for the team and play favorites simply does not make any sense at all...yup, its silly. Simple fact: Its all about winning, baby.
 
Meh. Go over to Rob Howe's site. He has a similar article that he wrote. If you ask me, this is bye week babble. These guys are journalists and their "job" is to present both sides of a topic and allow everyone else to argue. That's why I respect Jon, as he's a fan. Sure he'll hedge at times, but usually it seems because he doesn't want to "reach" at something. Otherwise, he'll give you what he thinks.

It is coincidental that two different writers come up with the same slant. It is more likely journalism 101.

Rob actually presented it pretty well I thought: http://iowa.scout.com/story/1457864-howe-rudock-should-start-beathard-must-play?s=8

And hits GDGD pretty hard: http://iowa.scout.com/2/1458260.html

Harty's article is fairly useless, but I strongly agree with this part: "It's been suggested to me more than once that since Ferentz has so much job security with his contract lasting through Jan. 2020 he isn't worried about the results of playing favorites. That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in over two decades of covering the Iowa program." Amazing how often it's spewed here by otherwise intelligent people - the idea that KF doesn't care about winning.
 
Rob actually presented it pretty well I thought: http://iowa.scout.com/story/1457864-howe-rudock-should-start-beathard-must-play?s=8

And hits GDGD pretty hard: http://iowa.scout.com/2/1458260.html

Harty's article is fairly useless, but I strongly agree with this part: "It's been suggested to me more than once that since Ferentz has so much job security with his contract lasting through Jan. 2020 he isn't worried about the results of playing favorites. That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in over two decades of covering the Iowa program." Amazing how often it's spewed here by otherwise intelligent people - the idea that KF doesn't care about winning.

I am sure he does care. It is some off the "brain dead" decisions that he makes from the sidelines that "lead" people to believe he doesn't care.

Jake Christensen starting at qb. (Stanzi goes on to lead us to 3 bowl wins)
Fake punts. (how many successful against us before he figured out there was a problem?)
successful onside kicks against us. (numerous)
Time out usage. (when will he learn that a time out is a valuable commodity in a football game?) Most times far more important than a five yard delay of game penalty. We never seem to have 3 left when we need them.
Clock mismanagement. (common occurrence in Iowa games)
 
Although I have not been a big fan of PH's stuff, I think he has absolutely nailed it in this article. At risk of being rude to those who disagree with him, the idea that KF would sacrifice what is best for the team and play favorites simply does not make any sense at all...yup, its silly. Simple fact: Its all about winning, baby.

I 100% agree that Kurt thinks he is doing what is best for the team. The problem is that he seems a little lost as to what that actually is. Just because you want to do something, doesn't mean you are doing it right.

The decision making is extremely suspect. Obviously GD is fail of all fails, yet he will ride it to the end. He used to be a coach that learned from his mistakes and got better at them. Now he seems to be a coach that runs from his mistakes as evidenced by his special teams decision making. We used to be selectively aggressive with returns and blocks, but a penalty here and a fake punt there and now we better not ever risk it.

With kurt, I see a coach that wants to win, but has forgotten how he did it and is too stubborn to adjust anymore because he thinks some play in 1979 and the impending result is somehow relevant to his team today.
 
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Rob actually presented it pretty well I thought: http://iowa.scout.com/story/1457864-howe-rudock-should-start-beathard-must-play?s=8

And hits GDGD pretty hard: http://iowa.scout.com/2/1458260.html

Harty's article is fairly useless, but I strongly agree with this part: "It's been suggested to me more than once that since Ferentz has so much job security with his contract lasting through Jan. 2020 he isn't worried about the results of playing favorites. That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard in over two decades of covering the Iowa program." Amazing how often it's spewed here by otherwise intelligent people - the idea that KF doesn't care about winning.

Actually, the best part of Harty's article is: "I've spoken with Banks about this topic on several occasions and never has he complained or criticized or even suggested that he was treated unfairly in 2001, not even off the record."

Stating what somebody hasn't said off the record is an unusual tactic by a journalist, is it not?
 
He's a D1 coach, top 10 ever for big 10 wins. You just don't want to believe the truth b/c it doesn't fit your distorted view of reality. There isn't a d1 coach that would sacrifice the feelings of a player over the interest of their program... But I know this will fall on your deaf ears

This doesn't carry water anymore. You have to go off recent results, KF lost it a long time ago. His great success was over a decade go sans one year we caught lightning in a bottle and won every coin flip game. Could also argue he made major gaffe's in the one majorly successful year we had over last decade in not having a backup QB with any 1st team reps in practice (ridiculous!!!) and not going for it in the 2nd half versus OSU with absolutely nothing to lose.

In 2008 he was playing JC favorites (gut feeling article) and cost this teams win. 2010 was a complete disaster, obvious fake punt is obvious...

He's mediocre and his style/methods are not going to work in today's college football landscape. Sure we can eek out bowl appearances on weak schedules... big whoop.
 
This doesn't carry water anymore. You have to go off recent results, KF lost it a long time ago. His great success was over a decade go sans one year we caught lightning in a bottle and won every coin flip game. Could also argue he made major gaffe's in the one majorly successful year we had over last decade in not having a backup QB with any 1st team reps in practice (ridiculous!!!) and not going for it in the 2nd half versus OSU with absolutely nothing to lose.

In 2008 he was playing JC favorites (gut feeling article) and cost this teams win. 2010 was a complete disaster, obvious fake punt is obvious...

He's mediocre and his style/methods are not going to work in today's college football landscape. Sure we can eek out bowl appearances on weak schedules... big whoop.

2009 is held up as the banner year for Ferentz, and I don't know if a team has ever been more lucky.
batted balls away from losing to Indiana and UNI. Losing the lead to MSU on a frickin trick play, luckily 7 got 6. Michigan and Arkansas State with the ball in the closing minutes with a chance to win. Luckily Michigan had a RB playing QB.

Even the greatest play of the KF era was a result of not having any clue what was actually happening on the field.

This was his quote after the Arkansas State game in 2009, "I've been around this thing long enough where I don't worry so much how you get there, just a matter of getting there."
That is the mindset that leaves a team with far superior talent having to come from behind to beat the Ball States of the world and losing to a god awful ISU team.

Lets put it this way. If Google maps tells you it takes 45 minutes to get to the stadium, do you leave exactly 46 minutes before kickoff? That is Kirk Ferentz football.
 
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This doesn't carry water anymore. You have to go off recent results, KF lost it a long time ago. His great success was over a decade go sans one year we caught lightning in a bottle and won every coin flip game. Could also argue he made major gaffe's in the one majorly successful year we had over last decade in not having a backup QB with any 1st team reps in practice (ridiculous!!!) and not going for it in the 2nd half versus OSU with absolutely nothing to lose.

In 2008 he was playing JC favorites (gut feeling article) and cost this teams win. 2010 was a complete disaster, obvious fake punt is obvious...

He's mediocre and his style/methods are not going to work in today's college football landscape. Sure we can eek out bowl appearances on weak schedules... big whoop.

This pretty much sums it up. The game has passed Kurt by in a big way and he's made only a few reluctant attempts to catch up. Our days of being a top 20 team are over until we move on from KF.
 
Teh facts are that Ferentz has kept a less experienced, more talented player on the bench in favor of a less talented player with more experience. He's in practice and I am not, so I guess he knows what he is doing.

That said, young guys do get their shot in this program... I see a lot of Freshmen out there..especially over the last 5 years or so.

freshman win the hesiman now
 
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Actually, the best part of Harty's article is: "I've spoken with Banks about this topic on several occasions and never has he complained or criticized or even suggested that he was treated unfairly in 2001, not even off the record."

Stating what somebody hasn't said off the record is an unusual tactic by a journalist, is it not?
That's a "WTF"
Should be publicly punished if there were any sense of responsibility in the "journalism" for violating such a "sacred" tenet, but no; he did it to show the establishment how he is solidly their man.
What a joke of a profession.
 
Teh facts are that Ferentz has kept a less experienced, more talented player on the bench in favor of a less talented player with more experience. He's in practice and I am not, so I guess he knows what he is doing.

That said, young guys do get their shot in this program... I see a lot of Freshmen out there..especially over the last 5 years or so.

I have found life much less stressful by not fixating on who plays. Or at least getting upset about it. The coaches literally see these guys perform 1,000 times more than we do. If you can't trust the coaches to play the best players, then there is no point in even following the team. Play-calling, overall offensive/defensive philosophy, clock management, etc. All of those seem much more open to fair criticism (and are).

But I don't get where people seem convinced that KF and the staff intentionally decide to play an inferior player over another. Like it or not, they make their decisions based on what they see in practices, meetings and the games. The overall angst of the Iowa fan base about the performance of the offense is being manifested in the QB comparison, but it really goes much deeper than that. The blending of the power running game and spread/horizontal passing game just has not worked in 2 1/2 years, and that issue will likely persist no matter who the QB is. If Rudock had been at the helm Saturday for no first downs into the second quarter, 8 3 and outs, a pick-six, etc., there would have been a meltdown of epic proportions among Iowa fans.

My guess (and this is only a guess) is that the coaches see the same things we fans do in games. Beathard has obvious advantages in arm strength, velocity and running ability. Rudock has a past history of some success (note, not overwhelming success, but some success). He did lead Iowa to comeback win over Michigan, made a money OT throw against Northwestern and was the starter for road wins against ISU, Minnesota and Nebraska. The comparisons between Rudock and Jake Christensen are silly and not correct. It appears that the current situation is at the place where the players are going to determine it with their play on the field.

When you say things like "the fact is that Ferentz has kept more talented players on the bench," how is that proved or disproved? When I see the amount of young players who receive early playing time opportunities, the only conclusion I can draw is that the staff plays the best guy (in their opinion). Just this year, Mabin is starting as a redshirt freshman, ahead of Fleming (sophomore) and Draper (junior). Bo Bower is starting at LB (older guy Travis Perry is not). Josey Jewell is playing a lot (and when he does play, guys like Alston go out, who is a senior). Nate Meier, a junior, unseated Hardy, a senior returning starter, at defensive end. On offense, a redshirt freshman (Welsh) is starting at LG ahead of lot of other older options. Parker, the redshirt RB, is making contributions. If he's in the game, it means other older guys are not. And the staff has stuck through him even with a bad, two-fumble game against Ball State. Why? Because he has shown ability and done well in practice. And their patience was rewarded with what he did against Purdue.

Is it possible that the coaches have a blind spot with Rudock/Beathard. The QB position is obviously more important than others.
 
Meh. Go over to Rob Howe's site. He has a similar article that he wrote. If you ask me, this is bye week babble. These guys are journalists and their "job" is to present both sides of a topic and allow everyone else to argue. That's why I respect Jon, as he's a fan. Sure he'll hedge at times, but usually it seems because he doesn't want to "reach" at something. Otherwise, he'll give you what he thinks.

It is coincidental that two different writers come up with the same slant. It is more likely journalism 101.

And Howe's article on the Iowa offense and Davis is very similar to Brown's article on Davis and the Iowa offense. Both jumped right out there quickly after the presser with Davis and wrote scathing articles criticizing Davis.
Its what columnists in Iowa do...either praise or criticize the Iowa coaches.

KF never will compromise the ultimate team goal of winning by not playing the players he feels gives Iowa the best chance to win.....I do not question his motives. If Jake struggles Saturday, and CJ is not out there for a number of series, I will question his judgement.
 
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