Iowa's Answer to an Inexperienced WR Corps?

If you look at Iowa's TE's honestly, there's one guy that has done anything & he falls over at the first sign of contact. I'd bet the TE's just simply aren't that good & that's why they didn't factor much last season & probably won't this season either. If GDGD's system is going to work, Iowa better win the lottery with a WR or three.

Ultimately, I think a lot of folks are confusing quantity of TE's with quality.
 
I assumed that University of Iowa scientists had been working on cloning Tim Dwight. It appears that is not the case.

I really thought that was such a good plan A that Iowa didn't need a plan B so....not sure where to go from here.
 
DP5555 said:
Cuz 2009 was 12 years ago right? Same ol' same ol'.
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I think the point was that the offense had some seemingly untapped potential at TE last year too and a plan to utilize the position never materialized last season. I'm not sure where the reference to 2009 fits because the offense was borderline terrible that year.
 
hawkfan2679 said:
I think the point was that the offense had some seemingly untapped potential at TE last year too and a plan to utilize the position never materialized last season. I'm not sure where the reference to 2009 fits because the offense was borderline terrible that year.
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The Hawks won 11 games in 2009. That's the only reason I mentioned it. It hasn't been 12 years since Ferentz's system has worked. It's annoying when people exaggerate that. The offense has never been a strength under KF. That much is obvious. They need to get more creative with it, but pretending like it hasnt worked for 12 years is irrational. It's about execution up front and making plays when they are given to you. If they can figure out a way to do that they will be fine.

I agree completely about the TE's last year. It was a complete failure to not feature them more. Hoping that will be an area that is worked on this year.
 
OakRaiders said:
Are the TE's really as good as we think they are or do they just look good compared to the options at WR?
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I think these two positions are actually somewhat equal. Each has one proven solid B10 player in CJF & KMM followed by a bunch of players that have proven nothing at the college level.
 
LOL at comparing Kirk Ferentz and/or Greg Davis to Bill O'Brien in terms of offensive ingenuity/creativity/acumen. That is just priceless.
 
Clark said:
KF, OL coach for about 15 years.

You were trying to make some sort of point there right?
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Yes, the point is there are three offensive assistants that coach ALL the skill positions with like 80 years of experience and people here actually think because BF coached under BO'B for a year they would change the offense to match BO'B's scheme, even though BF does not coach skill positions.

It's another one of those kind of silly proposals that make a little bit of sense until you think a second.
 
FreedomHawk said:
LOL at comparing Kirk Ferentz and/or Greg Davis to Bill O'Brien in terms of offensive ingenuity/creativity/acumen. That is just priceless.
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Priceless? Really?

Look, I get you think you're some football guru. But Greg Davis DOES have a pretty successful track record at Texas. And KF isn't without successes of his own.

Not to cut on Bill O'Brien, because he has been a real positive influence and credit both to PSU and college football, but I would hardly paint him as being "better" than KF or GD. he's had exactly one year as HC at PSU.
 
I agree with the concept of using the TE more ala PSU. It seems to make sense and to be a good fit for what Iowa has done historically. But that is the rub... with a new OC are we still fitting that mold or trying to go a new direction?

We hear about how KF and GD kept trying to run a hybrid of each others philosophies. One would think utilizing the TE would have been a component KF was trying to keep in the playbook. Looking at how badly we underutilized CJF last year i'm not sure it was.

As such, I'm not holding out hope that the TE position is going to see more use this year as we morph even more into GD's offense style.
 
What Jon said makes perfect sense. Then again, other things I thought made sense were:
Playing Banks ahead of McCann in 2001.
After winning a BT title without a running game in 2004, putting DT in the gun full-time and watching the second coming of Drew Brees. But the Hawks went .500 the next two years trying to "establish the run."
Starting Stanzi the second half at Pitt. Instead, "gut feeling" and more JC.
With a former QB as a pooch punter last year, trying one fake punt. One. Oh well...
I could go on, but won't.
My guess - the answer to inexperienced WRs will be more stretch plays. Left and right - just to keep 'em on their toes. We just need to execute!
 
creeksider said:
What Jon said makes perfect sense. Then again, other things I thought made sense were:
Playing Banks ahead of McCann in 2001.
After winning a BT title without a running game in 2004, putting DT in the gun full-time and watching the second coming of Drew Brees. But the Hawks went .500 the next two years trying to "establish the run."
Starting Stanzi the second half at Pitt. Instead, "gut feeling" and more JC.
With a former QB as a pooch punter last year, trying one fake punt. One. Oh well...
I could go on, but won't.
My guess - the answer to inexperienced WRs will be more stretch plays. Left and right - just to keep 'em on their toes. We just need to execute!
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If you remember back to that game, Stanzi showed on the field displeasure at the end of the half when he was told to kneel down instead of trying to go down field. "Gut feeling" was just a line KF used to not say he benched Stanzi for showing emotion when he didn't agree with Ferentz's conservative nature.
 
creeksider said:
What Jon said makes perfect sense. Then again, other things I thought made sense were:
Playing Banks ahead of McCann in 2001.
After winning a BT title without a running game in 2004, putting DT in the gun full-time and watching the second coming of Drew Brees. But the Hawks went .500 the next two years trying to "establish the run."
Starting Stanzi the second half at Pitt. Instead, "gut feeling" and more JC.
With a former QB as a pooch punter last year, trying one fake punt. One. Oh well...
I could go on, but won't.
My guess - the answer to inexperienced WRs will be more stretch plays. Left and right - just to keep 'em on their toes. We just need to execute!
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From this link, here's Banks quoted about playing ahead of McCann.

Harty: Magic season made Banks a legend | Hawk Central


Some Iowa fans still are upset that Banks didn’t play more as a junior in 2001 while serving as the backup to senior Kyle McCann. They assume with all his success in 2002 that Banks would’ve been better than McCann and they blame Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz for being too loyal to McCann.

Banks not surprisingly said it’s wrong to assume that. He also defended Ferentz’s decision to play McCann.

“I trusted coach Ferentz with that,â€￾ Banks said. “There were things a lot of people don’t know. They didn’t know what my comfort level was about it. For me, it was all about being a team guy and being ready to play when I was called upon. That was the biggest thing for me.

“I knew my time would come and I just wanted to seize the moment.â€￾
 
You play to your strength, Texas enjoyed getting their RBs out in space when Davis was there. Would like to see Canzeri one on one with an LB and see what happens. Bam he gone!
 
Galen (South Dakota)
You have noted WR as big question mark. You appear to have talent at the TE position with CJ. Ray, & Jake. Do you use the TE more as a weapon in the passing game?





Kirk Ferentz
We like Henry, to add to that. We're also very high on George. We think we have five guys we can put into a game. So, yeah, we do plan on utilizing all five of those guys and we could see all five play a lot this fall.





 
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