~ Iowa's 2020 NCAA Resume Quadrant Breakdown ~

JG10Hawk

JG10Hawk

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With the first set of this season's NET rankings released today, I have refreshed my spreadsheet from last year.

NET Quadrants per NCAA:
  • Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
  • Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
  • Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
  • Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353

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*excludes additional Quadrant 1-4 Big Ten Tournament game/s

Last Updated: 2/19/20
  • Updated for games through 2/18/20
  • Oral Roberts jumped back up to a Q3 win
  • Michigan, Rutgers, & Wisconsin home games all jumped up to Q1 wins

Big Ten Kenpom/Sagarin Composite Rankings (games through 2/18/20):

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JG10Hawk said:
With the first set of this season's NET rankings released today, I have refreshed my spreadsheet from last year.

NET Quadrants per NCAA:
  • Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
  • Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
  • Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
  • Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353

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*excludes additional Quadrant 1, 2, or 3 Big Ten Tournament game/s

Last Updated: 12/16/19
  • Updated for games through 12/15/19
  • The 3 losses are to #3 SDSU, #21 Michigan, and #43 DePaul
  • DePaul coming in at #43 is huge as that home thrashing doesn't look quite as bad at the moment
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Good stuff. Makes me a little nervous about this Cincinatti game though. Post finals week game if we lay a stinker and lose that’s a Q3 loss.
 
Its a little shocking to me that Cincy is a Q3 game right now on a neutral court considering they were a tourney team last year. They returned their top 3 scorers from last year too.

I assume everyone else saw how they lost to Colgate the other night...brutal.

That being said they host #21 Tennessee on Wednesday so can make up some ground if they can win that game.
 
Obviously things are going to change but right now Iowa's schedule looks brutal as hell. Tons of Q1 games
 
mopkins said:
Obviously things are going to change but right now Iowa's schedule looks brutal as hell. Tons of Q1 games
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Some of that will even out once conference games start back up but, yeah, that's as tough as I've ever seen it from the start.
 
I don’t understand Indiana at 36 in the NET. Literally 9 of their 11 games have been at home. In their only true road game they got blasted by Wisconsin by 20 points. They must have been able to game the system a bit with their easy home wins in Q3 or something.
 
NikeHawk21 said:
I don’t understand Indiana at 36 in the NET. Literally 9 of their 11 games have been at home. In their only true road game they got blasted by Wisconsin by 20 points. They must have been able to game the system a bit with their easy home wins in Q3 or something.
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They've won every home game and I'm sure they get points for offensive & defensive efficiency. Their SOS is hurting them or they'd be ranked much higher.
 
It is too bad that Nebraska lost that close game at Indiana. Playing a Q2 sub 135 Net Nebraska team in Lincoln would be far less scary than the current Q3 153 Net team. Their guards are quick to 50 50 balls. Dachon Burke Jr. and Cam Mack are entertaining to watch. They almost got a Q1 win, who would have predicted that? They have 11 more Q1 opportunities.
 
I still have concerns with the NET formula. 4 of the 5 components do not take into account opponent difficulty and the one that supposedly does is unknown to the public how it's calculated.

1. Team Value Index - "Algorithm set up to reward teams that beat other good teams (results oriented component of the NET)" - what does that mean exactly?

2. Net Efficiency - "Offensive efficiency minus defensive efficiency" - Opponent strength not taken into account, one could manipulate this component by destroying bad teams.

3. Winning Percentage - "Same calculation for any sport" - Opponent strength not taken into account, again one could manipulate this component by beating bad teams.

4. Adjusted Winning Percentage - "Weighted average based on location and result" - Kind of has a difficulty factor in play with location but one could manipulate by beating bad teams away from home or on a neutral court.

5. Scoring Margin - "Point differential capped at 10 points in each game" - Trying to limit the impact of blowing out bad teams but beating a really good team by 10 counts the same as beating a really bad team by 10. Again, manipulation can be attained pretty easily.
 
JPinIC said:
It is too bad that Nebraska lost that close game at Indiana. Playing a Q2 sub 135 Net Nebraska team in Lincoln would be far less scary than the current Q3 153 Net team. Their guards are quick to 50 50 balls. Dachon Burke Jr. and Cam Mack are entertaining to watch. They almost got a Q1 win, who would have predicted that? They have 11 more Q1 opportunities.
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That probably explains why Purdue came in so low at 44 after Nebraska just hammered them in Lincoln. That should even out throughout Big 10 play and I think the game at Nebraska will get into quadrant 2.
 
JG10Hawk said:
I still have concerns with the NET formula. 4 of the 5 components do not take into account opponent difficulty and the one that supposedly does is unknown to the public how it's calculated.

1. Team Value Index - "Algorithm set up to reward teams that beat other good teams (results oriented component of the NET)" - what does that mean exactly?

2. Net Efficiency - "Offensive efficiency minus defensive efficiency" - Opponent strength not taken into account, one could manipulate this component by destroying bad teams.

3. Winning Percentage - "Same calculation for any sport" - Opponent strength not taken into account, again one could manipulate this component by beating bad teams.

4. Adjusted Winning Percentage - "Weighted average based on location and result" - Kind of has a difficulty factor in play with location but one could manipulate by beating bad teams away from home or on a neutral court.

5. Scoring Margin - "Point differential capped at 10 points in each game" - Trying to limit the impact of blowing out bad teams but beating a really good team by 10 counts the same as beating a really bad team by 10. Again, manipulation can be attained pretty easily.
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Yeah this kind of crap really pisses me off. Coaches could easily game the system if they wanted to...and TBH I'm not sure why they don't. Especially annual bubble teams like Iowa. Go on the road to Kennesaw State and blow them out 120-42. I think it was Nebraska that did that last year and was a top 5 NET team for awhile.
 
Last Updated: 12/23/19
  • Updated for games through 12/22/19
  • Oral Roberts had a strong week jumping almost 100 spots and is now a Q3 win
  • Syracuse dropped down to a Q2 win
  • Minnesota & ISU were both bumped up to Q1 wins
  • Cincinnati jumped 24 spots after beating Tennessee and losing to Iowa and are now a Q2 win when earlier last week it was looking like a Q3
 
JG10Hawk said:
Last Updated: 12/23/19
  • Updated for games through 12/22/19
  • Oral Roberts had a strong week jumping almost 100 spots and is now a Q3 win
  • Syracuse dropped down to a Q2 win
  • Minnesota & ISU were both bumped up to Q1 wins
  • Cincinnati jumped 24 spots after beating Tennessee and losing to Iowa and are now a Q2 win when earlier last week it was looking like a Q3
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Also was wondering, does the Penn State game count as a Neutral game since its at the Palestra? Obviously being in Philly is a huge advantage to the Fighting Paternos, but you have it listed above as an Away game when I assume it will be considered a Neutral game.
 
mopkins said:
Also was wondering, does the Penn State game count as a Neutral game since its at the Palestra? Obviously being in Philly is a huge advantage to the Fighting Paternos, but you have it listed above as an Away game when I assume it will be considered a Neutral game.
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Good question. I wasn't sure exactly how the NET was going to treat that game. Is it considered a home game still for Penn State or a true neutral game?
 
JG10Hawk said:
Good question. I wasn't sure exactly how the NET was going to treat that game. Is it considered a home game still for Penn State or a true neutral game?
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Not really sure. Its labeled on ESPN as a neutral location, but then news articles say that Penn State will "host" Iowa at the palestra. To me "host" means they're the home team.

If you don't include the Penn State game then Iowa plays 10 home games and 9 away games so clearly its taking away from Penn State's home schedule...which would lead me to believe its an away game.

I dunno...lets hope it doesn't matter either way.
 
mopkins said:
Also was wondering, does the Penn State game count as a Neutral game since its at the Palestra? Obviously being in Philly is a huge advantage to the Fighting Paternos, but you have it listed above as an Away game when I assume it will be considered a Neutral game.
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Fran has a bit of history in that building himself. He's going to be stoked for that one.
 
mopkins said:
Not really sure. Its labeled on ESPN as a neutral location, but then news articles say that Penn State will "host" Iowa at the palestra. To me "host" means they're the home team.

If you don't include the Penn State game then Iowa plays 10 home games and 9 away games so clearly its taking away from Penn State's home schedule...which would lead me to believe its an away game.

I dunno...lets hope it doesn't matter either way.
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I'll take the wait and see approach I guess. One can always update it after the fact. Road game looks better should Penn State falter a bit. :)
 
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