Iowa vs. Michigan state

[Hawks4life11]

Figured I would put up the match-ups. I don't really know many of the Michigan State guys so the only prediction I can give is we win a lot to a little.

125-#4/4/4 Matt McDonough vs. Eric Olanowski
133-#4/6/9 Daniel Dennis vs. #1/1/1 Franklin Gomez
141-#5/5/- Montell Marion vs. Dan Osterman
149-#1/1/1 Brent Metcalf vs. #17/13/19 David Cheza
157- Aaron Janssen vs. Anthony Jones
165-#5/5/6 Ryan Morningstar vs. Kyle Bounds
174-#1/2/1 Jay Borshel vs. Ian Hinton
184-#8/7/8 Phillip Keddy vs. Nick Palmieri
197- Luke Lofthouse vs. Tyler Dickenson
HWT-#9/9/6 Dan Erekson vs. Alan O’Donnell

 

[bud2380]

I'd love to see Dennis knock off Gomez. That will be the obvious marquee matchup going into the meet.

 

[DesertHawk2010]

Anyone know Erekson's status with his knee?

Has anyone heard if Janssen or Kerr will be going at 157?

 

[BigDaddy]

Dennis WINS!!

 

[TecmoSuperHawk]

Dennis gets the upset! 3-2 in OT (30 sec OT).

 

[JonDMiller]

That's just what Dan needs to get going downhill before big tens

 

[SPGroth]

Anyone know Erekson's status with his knee?

Has anyone heard if Janssen or Kerr will be going at 157?

Tommy said after the Penn State dual that Jensen was getting the nod at 57 tonight.

 

[imported_ankle23]

That's just what Dan needs to get going downhill before big tens

Dan?

 

[JonDMiller]

Dan?

That's still the root of Daniel right??

 

[imported_ankle23]

That's still the root of Daniel right??

I guess you are right Jonathon.

 

[jparmley3]

I guess you are right Jonathon.

There is a difference here:

Daniel has actually been referred to as Dan. In fact, Ironside called him Dan two times during the broadcast this evening.

Jon has never been called Jonathon on here, to my knowledge.

 

[JonDMiller]

I think Iowa won something like 37-0...pins at 125, 149

 

[Hawk8568]

I guess you are right Jonathon.

get a life

 

[HawKCP]

I think it was Terrance Brands...who said after the meet that Dennis got a good win but he still a little disappointed that he didn't have any takedowns. He said that they were extremely pleased with the effort from McDonough and Metcalf but there were a lot of guys who didn't push hard enough to get bonus points. Even though we shut them out we only had 3 matches with bonus points.

He acknowledged that most of the Mich St wrestlers were laying flat on the mat and trying to keep the score close rather than wrestling hard and trying to score points.

He also said that Dennis doesn't have the excuse of having the bum ankle anymore because they've been working on it and Dennis got it dinged up in warmups and it was fine...so he said he knows he can go hard but he's still wrestling a little tentatively and that needs to change. Lastly he said that this was a nice win for Dennis but Daniel beat Gomez in the regular season last year but Gomez still ended up winning the NC and Dennis finished 7th...so he said Daniel's got a lot of work to do yet.

He also didn't have real great things to say about 157 and 165...he said we won two matches (133 and 157) where we didn't get a single takedown and that's not a good sign because that's not how we want to win.

 

[JonDMiller]

Is it me or does the Big Ten seem down this year?

 

[fflMTPHawk2]

Is it me or does the Big Ten seem down this year?

Not sure if that is the case or we just have filled the holes a lot better. I think the other B10 teams vs. the rest of the nation is still tilted B10.

 

[Hawks4life11]

Is it me or does the Big Ten seem down this year?

I don't know if I would say that. Going by intermat rankings the big ten has Iowa #1, Ohio State #4, Minnesota #5, Penn State #12, Wisconsin #13, Indiana #14, and Illinois #24. And Purdue was ranked #25. We just haven't seen many of these yet this year.

 

[Hawk8568]

I don't know if I would say that. Going by intermat rankings the big ten has Iowa #1, Ohio State #4, Minnesota #5, Penn State #12, Wisconsin #13, Indiana #14, and Illinois #24. And Purdue was ranked #25. We just haven't seen many of these yet this year.

i do think it seems down, for two main (and related) reasons.

1. iowa is more dominant than they have been in recent years
2. for the better part of the last 10 years, there has been at least 1 team in the big ten that has posed a significant challenge to iowa, but that team isnt there this year.

that doesnt meant the big 10 is down top to bottom, just that its more of a 1 horse race than it has been of recent.

 

[ih8olives]

Down? How so? It's still the toughest conference and if your saying its "down" based on iowa dominance thats more of a statement about iowa then the big ten. Look at the rankings depending on which you choose it averages out to about 5 number one wrestlers at 10 weights. If you look at just intermat you have

125- 1, 4 (3 in the top 10; 5 in the top 20)
133- 1, 2 (4 in the top 10; 4 in the top 20)
141 - 2, 3, 5 (3 in the top 10; 5 in the top 20)
149 - 1, 2, 3, 5 (4 in the top 10; 6 in the top 20)
157 - 5 (2 in the top 10; 2 in the top 20) (before schlatter moved down where he will imediately be top 5)
165 - 1, 2, 5 (6 in the top 10; 7 in the top 20)
174 - 2 (3 in the top 10; 6 in the top 20)
184 - 2 (3 in the top 10; 5 in the top 20)
197 - 4 (4 in the top 10; 6 in the top 20)
285 - 2 (2 in the top 10; 3 in the top 20)
Teams- 1,3,5 ( 3 in the top 10; 6 in the top 20; 7 in the top 25)

thats out of 81 programs and the big ten represents 11 of them. The big ten accounts for 13.5% of the wrestlers in the nation. Out of 50 top 5 spots (top 5 at each weight) the big ten accounts for 38% thats just under triple what they should account for statistically. That's saying that a big ten wrestler (based solely on overall toughness of conference) is THREE times more likely to end up top 5 then a wrestler from another conference.

 

[CaneHawk62]

We have not seen Ohio State yet.