Iowa or ISU?



The road team has taken the two-hour bus trip home victorious in 10 of the last 12 meetings. In that span, the Hawkeyes and Cyclones have each won a 44-41 overtime thriller and a one-point game decided in the final seconds.

Odds are in the Hawkeyes favor

Damn
 


Much better to be ISUx. They are a mediocre team in a mediocre conference that somehow gets an automatic playoff bid. Even if they don't qualify, they will always have a good record. They had the most wins in school history by 2 games in the first year in the current conference. Last year, Iowa had their worst record since 2014 and was 1 shitty defensive play and a 54 yard field goal by a freshman away from beating them.
 


SCHawkeye2 said:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/65...-rivalry-finances/?source=user_shared_articleIn college football’s new era, is it better to be Iowa or Iowa State?
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The article from The Athletic explores the financial dynamics behind the Cy-Hawk rivalry between the University of Iowa and Iowa State University. While the annual football game is a cornerstone of state pride and tradition, the financial arrangements between the two schools are lopsided.

Key points:
  • Revenue Split: Unlike many major rivalries where both teams profit significantly, Iowa State receives far less financial benefit from the series. Iowa, as a member of the Big Ten with lucrative media rights deals, earns substantially more from its home games than Iowa State does from theirs.
  • Contract Terms: The schools alternate hosting duties, but each retains the revenue from its own home games. This arrangement disproportionately benefits Iowa, whose stadium (Kinnick) seats about 70,000 compared to ISU’s Jack Trice Stadium at around 61,500. Iowa also charges higher ticket prices. In 2023, Iowa’s average home football revenue was about $35 million, compared with Iowa State’s $17 million.
  • Media Rights Gap: Iowa benefits from the Big Ten’s massive TV contracts, which provide schools roughly $60–70 million annually. In contrast, Iowa State’s Big 12 distribution is closer to $45 million, widening the financial gap even further when the rivalry game is played in Iowa City.
  • Financial Pressure on ISU: For Iowa State, the game remains important for recruiting, fan engagement, and tradition, but financially it is less advantageous compared to scheduling other opponents.
  • Potential Future Changes: The Big Ten’s continued growth in TV revenue and the evolving college football landscape (including expanded playoffs and shifting non-conference schedules) may put pressure on Iowa State to reconsider whether maintaining the rivalry is in its best financial interest.
  • Cultural vs. Financial Value: Despite financial disadvantages, the rivalry holds immense cultural and political importance in Iowa. Both schools face pressure from fans and state leaders to keep the Cy-Hawk game alive.
In short, the Cy-Hawk rivalry is a treasured tradition but also a financial mismatch, with Iowa reaping most of the monetary rewards while Iowa State participates largely for cultural significance and competitive pride.
 


SCHawkeye2 said:
  • Contract Terms: The schools alternate hosting duties, but each retains the revenue from its own home games. This arrangement disproportionately benefits Iowa, whose stadium (Kinnick) seats about 70,000 compared to ISU’s Jack Trice Stadium at around 61,500. Iowa also charges higher ticket prices. In 2023, Iowa’s average home football revenue was about $35 million, compared with Iowa State’s $17 million.
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Ok, I want to pick at these key points starting with stadium and ticket revenue. This statement suggests Iowa makes $35M from home football games. This works out to:

$35,000,000 / 70,000 ticket holders = $500 per ticket holder.

Ok, what is that based on? It can't just be based on ticket sales.
 


guffus said:
Ok, I want to pick at these key points starting with stadium and ticket revenue. This statement suggests Iowa makes $35M from home football games. This works out to:

$35,000,000 / 70,000 ticket holders = $500 per ticket holder.

Ok, what is that based on? It can't just be based on ticket sales.
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Not all seats are MSRP....

Plus students get in free. They might factor in tuition costs into the cost of the seats. Do consession sales factor into these $500/seat costs?
 


I haven't read the article yet, but ISU will become much more competitive in terms of attractability when those massive renovations around the stadium are completed. It will be a game-changer for them from a recruiting standpoint, especially if Campbell sticks around.

They will always be on the short end when comparing TV revenue, but that has been the case for years and it doesn't appear to be holding them back at all in terms of athletic department investing.
 


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