Iowa in the TCU situation. Does Kirk go for 2 or overtime???????????

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Second question. Which option would you prefer he choose?
 
I like the call. And the play was there.

It'd suck to lose that way but I like the call.

Not sure KF would do it, I don't think he would. Although, if we win Friday and he has a chance to win the B1G Championship in the same fashion...screw it...play to win!
 
I don't think it would even cross his mind to go for 2. If it was a game where we were huge underdogs I would want to go for 2.
 
you go for the extra point there - you have all the mo at that point - come from behind - give your kids a chance to win the game - not lose it on a flukey play. besides - with nearly a minute to go, OU can drive the field and win the game with a field goal anyway. tie the game.
 
You only go for 2 if you're a vastly inferior team or if you have some reason to believe you don't stand a good chance in OT, maybe your D has been on the field all day and is gassed and you're lucky to be within 1 or whatever.

I don't fault TCU as an 18 point underdog. Iowa is good enough this season that I wouldn't expect Kirk to go for it in that situation and I wouldn't want him to.
 
I thought TCU should have kicked there. I like ankle23's reasoning above. Now 09 in the shoe (different situation) there I wish Kirk would have had the team drive for the Field Goal there instead of taking the knee. This year it would seem he is doing more to score at the end of quarters.
 
imported_ankle23 said:
you go for the extra point there - you have all the mo at that point - come from behind - give your kids a chance to win the game - not lose it on a flukey play. besides - with nearly a minute to go, OU can drive the field and win the game with a field goal anyway. tie the game.
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He did give his kids a chance to win. 1 play from the 2 yard line.
 
PCHawk said:
He did give his kids a chance to win. 1 play from the 2 yard line.
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odds of kicking extra point? odds of making a two point conversion?

not making that play, with a minute to go, killed his team's chances.

make the riskier two pointer, still could lose the game as OU now has to score a FG tied game - OU more risk averse and willing to take their shot in OT.

risk/reward vastly favors extra point here.
 
You don't compare the odds of an extra point vs a 2 pt conversation. You compare the odds of making a 2 pt conversation vs the odds of winning in overtime. If you factor in the slight chance of them kicking a field goal in regulation that they wouldn't have even attempted if they were tied, you also have to factor in getting an onside kick and getting a field goal. It's far from a huge advantage either way. People normally just like to make the decision that delays the outcome. That way, by the time the outcome comes, people forgot about your decision. When the outcome of a game comes right after a coaches decision, it makes the decision stick out more.
 
If you don't get the 2 point conversion it is highly likely you are finished. Get the higher percentage PAT, you get another chance in OT. Gutsy, but foolish decision by Anderson I think in this situation. His offense also had the hot hand in the 4th quarter.
 
HaydenHawk56 said:
If you don't get the 2 point conversion it is highly likely you are finished. Get the higher percentage PAT, you get another chance in OT. Gutsy, but foolish decision by Anderson I think in this situation. His offense also had the hot hand in the 4th quarter.
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If you do get the 2 point conversation it is highly likely your opponent is finished.
 
If the defense looks like they did at the end last week against the Gophers or, say AZ 2010, you go for 2 because you aren't going to stop them in OT. If the defense is playing lights out then you kick the PAT and take your chances in OT.
 
Stuff like this to me is just different schools of thought with no solid consensus. Damned if you do, damned if you don't
 
KF might go for it at the end of the first half (this season) but NEVER at the end of a game because if he loses the try in the first half there's always the second half. Besides, these 4th down tries at the ends of first halves, this season, are just to show the base he can be a risk taker. If he has a stout defense in the game, he will always rely on the defense...most coaches would.

My next thought is: except in the Big XII where stout defenses are usually non-existent. Even TCU's historically famous vaunted defense has succumbed to the Big XII.
 
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Really some think he goes for it lol listen there is no way even new KF would go for 2. Iowa kicks the extra point. Let's not get carried away folks!
 
To me it boils down to how strong I feel about one particular play, If I have a time out to reset and change my mind and how I feel about my defense making stops. In 2002 didn't Ferentz make the same decision VS Purdue?
 
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