Iowa Announces NIL Plan for Student-Athletes

[Hawkfnntn]

Yeah, there will be quality in the portal and guys will want to play. But the issue is that the guy who rides pine for 2 years at OSU and is then penciled in as the starter in year 3 ain't leaving. OSU will get a 1-2 year look at guys. The best will stay, the guys who aren't as good will be in the portal. As things stand now, the big states churn out plenty of talent that programs like Wisconsin and Iowa can jump on. OSU is the best team in the conference, but the delta between OSU and Iowa/Wisconsin is fairly slim in a lot of years. But once the big states get that "first look" at guys, I worry that it won't hold up. The "diamonds in the rough" will become rarer and harder to find. Hopefully Iowa can pick apart programs like Northern Illinois or Western Kentucky.

True. I think the occasional kid like Joe Burrow will pop up now and then still. The diamonds are tougher to find now too because of all the access. Every kid at most levels of play has tape on them that's easily distributed around via the internet twitter etc etc. Like that Cooper Dejean kid we got from Ida Grove as good as he was it didn't matter that he went to such a small school he was getting discovered. 25-30 yrs ago a kid like him it's hard telling how seriously he'd have been looked at.

All these off season camps is where a lot of kids get ranked too. It is funny though that as thorough of a job at scouting and recruiting of HS kids as is done it's such an inexact science. Kids change so much between 17-22 that it can be downright unpredictable how one will develop.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Regarding schollie limits and whether NIL will impact it, I will just remind everyone there is a reason they put schollie limits in place. The big schools were hoarding kids with 150 man rosters. Why would a kid do that? He doesn't know or believe he won't make it. He was the stud on his high school team. He can go to Bama and win a job. Schollie limits even the playing field a lot. Not enough, but a lot.

I am a big believer in sports that even the playing field so it just comes down to the skill of the coach, management, and in some ways, the support of the fan base. That is why I love the NFL and hate the NBA/MLB models. The Packers have just as much chance as the Jets. Can we say the same thing about the Brewers and Yankees?

Unless there are some tight guidelines put around NIL (which I am not seeing), this is taking the sports I love the most (college football and basketball) in the wrong direction from a competitive balance perspective.

Completely agreed. If football devolves back to the '60-'70's style where no one outside of a select few has a snowballs chance in hell of winning a division and things stay static for a prolonged period, I think they'll kill college football. There's already a problem with young peoples' interest level and if no one has hope instilled by a few promising freshmen (because they'll get recruited away) or a close game against a blue blood, you could see a lot of fan bases experiencing a 1-3% drop in engagement per year. Sure, the big programs draw eyeballs on the big stage, but at the end of the day CFB is a network that relies on fans of programs like Ol' Miss, Iowa, K-State, etc. and if those sorts of programs are consistently getting shit trucked by 42 points against the blue bloods for a decade with no hope, interest will wane in the entire system.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Regarding schollie limits and whether NIL will impact it, I will just remind everyone there is a reason they put schollie limits in place. The big schools were hoarding kids with 150 man rosters. Why would a kid do that? He doesn't know or believe he won't make it. He was the stud on his high school team. He can go to Bama and win a job. Schollie limits even the playing field a lot. Not enough, but a lot.

I am a big believer in sports that even the playing field so it just comes down to the skill of the coach, management, and in some ways, the support of the fan base. That is why I love the NFL and hate the NBA/MLB models. The Packers have just as much chance as the Jets. Can we say the same thing about the Brewers and Yankees?

Unless there are some tight guidelines put around NIL (which I am not seeing), this is taking the sports I love the most (college football and basketball) in the wrong direction from a competitive balance perspective.

I agree with your first two paragraphs to the Nth degree. Baseball is about the big spenders buying their team for the most part. The As tend to beat the odds and put a competitive team out there alot as have the Rays lately but they are outliers. NFLs way of doing things lets them have teams like Green Bay be good and NY teams struggle when you'd think that couldn't hardly ever be the case. The Bengals in a relatively short time can improve and get out of their hole. Look at Cleveland not long ago they went winless now they are expected to compete for the division.

How this affects college will be interesting. You could be right it may indeed further the divide between the OSUs and Bamas from the middle of the pack schools. I just hope there aren't any snap overall judgements on it after a year or two. It'll take a recruiting cycle or so to fairly see how it affects everything. I think the transfer portal kinda levels things out in the sense that once a kid goes to Bama for a yr or two then realizes they aren't gonna play anytime soon if at all that they'll leave. Regardless of what they are making NIL wise. Wanting to play and play early so they can not only maximize their NIL but boost their resume for the next level would be the kids top priorities. The top level kids don't typically have the patience to wait 3 yrs play anymore. 1 or 2 yrs tops it seems like and into the portal they go.

 

[Fryowa]

Regarding schollie limits and whether NIL will impact it, I will just remind everyone there is a reason they put schollie limits in place. The big schools were hoarding kids with 150 man rosters. Why would a kid do that? He doesn't know or believe he won't make it. He was the stud on his high school team. He can go to Bama and win a job. Schollie limits even the playing field a lot. Not enough, but a lot.

I am a big believer in sports that even the playing field so it just comes down to the skill of the coach, management, and in some ways, the support of the fan base. That is why I love the NFL and hate the NBA/MLB models. The Packers have just as much chance as the Jets. Can we say the same thing about the Brewers and Yankees?

Unless there are some tight guidelines put around NIL (which I am not seeing), this is taking the sports I love the most (college football and basketball) in the wrong direction from a competitive balance perspective.

At the end of the day, playing time trumps all. You might see some isolated incidents where a booster pays a 5 star guy $100,000 to sit the bench at Alabama for four years, but 1) boosters are only go to pay kids to sit for so many years before they realize they're lighting their money on fire, and 2) after there are a few horror stories of a 5 star kid getting "duped" into riding the pine his whole career for a few thousand bucks and not getting a chance at his NFL dream...players are going to realize thatwithout playing time they have nothing at all.

The talent pool is more limited than you think and NIL will even encourage spreading that talent out now that other schools that have money in their donor pool can use it to their advantage. Iowa's donor base ain't poor and if guys like Paca are willing do donate millions to build a plaza in the Kinnick end zone they'll spend even more to help a team stay competitive.

Schools that are in money trouble and don't have deep donor pockets? Yep. They might be hosed. But the reason they don't have big donor backing is because they sucked in the first place and nothing's really going to change.

 

[Motigerhawk]

There are so many new things that are going to happen. That kid that banked a few hundred k that doesnt want to go play for the Browns, now sits out a year because he can afford to sit out a year. Football becomes a major and kids go to schools and make tons of money just to play football seems like a possibility.

Best of all is that NCAA college football is in the works for a Summer 2023 release.

 

[ChosenChildren]

I predict a dark era on the horizon. If Ohio State can keep just 5-8 of the in-state kids a year that it "doesn't have room for" and use that year or two to get a "good look" they can absolutely take MSU, Iowa and Wisconsin down a peg. Someone there has to be thinking about that.

Sure, they can have a "heart to heart" with the kids who aren't penciled as starters after their second year, but we all know those guys will not be nearly as good as the 3 stars who bloom late that provide a lot of juice for the other solid Big Ten programs. If schools in big states like PA, MI, TX, FL, etc. have enough economic pull to create a shadow slush fund of an additional 20-30 scholarships Iowa is completely fucked.

This will be the end of college football as we know it. Boosters will buy jerseys to get and keep players. There will be no way to regulate it.

The college education offered in the past used to matter. It won't now. No one will play for any motive other than money. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but it is simply a minor league for the NFL. The rich teams will dominate even more than they do now.

At least the players will get compensated.

 

[Ree4]

I heard on CNN today that JBo has a fireworks company as his sponsor - Boomin Iowa Fireworks. Interesting that he's already getting national attention for it.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I heard on CNN today that JBo has a fireworks company as his sponsor - Boomin Iowa Fireworks. Interesting that he's already getting national attention for it.

I saw some gymnast for LSU is getting a bunch of publicity in NYC. Pretty blonde hair blue eyed gal that was already internet famous I guess. She's so famous I can't remember her name and had never heard of her before but they say she's already rolling in the dough.

 

[Ree4]

I saw some gymnast for LSU is getting a bunch of publicity in NYC. Pretty blonde hair blue eyed gal that was already internet famous I guess. She's so famous I can't remember her name and had never heard of her before but they say she's already rolling in the dough.

Yeah they mentioned her and JBo in the 30 second news byte that I saw.

 

[Fryowa]

Lots of people online and social media saying how bad this is. Tell those same people the only thing they get at their current job is room and board for the next 4 years and see how many of them stay at their jobs.

There’s nothing wrong with all of this unless you’re a communist.

Just the fact that it changes a game that might not now take the shape of what your idyllic version of ra ra ra college football is, doesn’t make it wrong.

Amateurism has been dead for decades, folks. It’s just out in the light now.