Iowa(-9) over ISU

Agreed. Far better Iowa teams have gone into Ames against far worse ISU teams and not only didn't cover but lost. I wouldn't touch this game.

Obviously we don't know how good this team is yet, however I would like to think they are better than the 99, 01, 05 and 07 teams that went there and lost and didn't cover otherwise you are back to 1981 the last time Iowa lost in Ames. The 09 team obviously covered so they aren't included. Now better teams may have went there and not covered the spread between 83 and 97 but they didn't lose.
 


Line is holding at 7 as of Monday evening and I don't see it moving much if any before kickoff . Iowa wins by 9 !
 


Dadgummit! Do them gamblin' houses take confederate money? Empty nickel cans? Ima gon' put 'er all on them thar Sah-Clones!
 


It would be considered a big move if it moves off of a key number like 7 or 3. I do not think it will move off of 7 until kickoff.
 


Im really having a hard time understanding 7 pts. I cant wait to see the hawks roll by 2 TDs.
 


money talks and the line moves with the money. I don't think there will be a large amount of money put down on this game in either direction, however, wouldn't be surprised to see it move back up a half-point or point or even drop to six. that said I'm laying points at six if it gets there, thinking iowa will post 21-24 and clones put up 14-16.
 


Agreed. Far better Iowa teams have gone into Ames against far worse ISU teams and not only didn't cover but lost. I wouldn't touch this game.

Yeah, Im not buying this either.

Iowa has more talent on this roster than the ones around 05-07. This team will have another 6-8 guys drafted next year.

I would say those Iowa squads were worse to far worse than this one will be and this is not a very good ISU squad.
 


There's not a whole lot to guarantee in this game than In past years. That's why the line is moving. Two first year qb and a road game for the hawks...no matter how many stats vegas uses they don't live in Iowa and know this game like most of us do.
 








Agreed. Far better Iowa teams have gone into Ames against far worse ISU teams and not only didn't cover but lost. I wouldn't touch this game.

As a Hawk fan I disagree with this statement. In the games ISU has one since 1998 they either had the superior team or the talent level was essentially the same. Looking back at the series since ISU broke the streak in 98:

1998 (Iowa City) - Iowa won 3 games and flat out stunk

1999 (Ames) - Iowa won 1 game and was horrendous

2000 (Iowa City) - Iowa won 3 games and was pretty bad the first half of the season

2001 (Ames) - Iowa went 6-5 in regular season; played a decent ISU team that went either 6-5 or 7-4 in the regular season as well before losing to Alabama in a close/controversial ending with a missed field goal. ISU had the far superior QB; otherwise the talent was pretty much the same on both teams as evident by the 3 point difference in outcome

2002 (Iowa City) - the only true upset in the series since 1998; Iowa had far better talent.

2005 (Ames) - One of ISU's best defenses (if not the best under McCarney) against an overrated/underachieving Iowa team. ISU would have won another 2-3 more games that year had Hicks not gotten injured. This was a good ISU team that actually underachieved in terms of final wins.

2007 (Ames) - 6-6 Iowa team that had one of the worst offenses in the BCS and arguably the worst QB to play at the school in decades. Not an upset in my opinion; 2 bad teams playing bad football.

Of ISU's 7 wins since 1998, only 3 were against teams that went to a bowl, and of those 3 seasons ISU also went to a bowl. And of those 7 wins, I think only 1 was a true upset where Iowa had the clearly better talent (2002).

Ultimate point: the more talented team usually wins this game (except 2002).

All of this makes me feel better about the Hawks' chances this week. I think we will get good QB play, and from a position by position breakdown I think we have more talent and are much deeper. I think the program is in much better shape then 2007, and we are not going into this game with the arrogance of 2005 or facing a defense as underrated as ISU's 2005 squad.
 




The line will not quickly move from -7.5 to -13-13.5. A line moving 5.5 or 6 points in one direction during the course of a game week is extremely rare. I would guess it may go off around -9. If that's the case I still like Iowa to cover.
 




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