Interesting point made by Jon D Miller during Soundoff...

[1st]

Ferentz averages a little over 7 wins a year since he has been at Iowa. Looks to me like we are right where we are suppose to be.

We're paying 10 win money for a 7 win coach.

 

[GhostofBTT]

Return on Investment? You have invested exactly nothing worth mentioning, so cut your losses and GTFO of here. You and your nonexistent investment will not be missed. I promise you that. KF will be the coach until he decides to leave, and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. Sorry bro, but the only morons here are you and the rest of the wing-nuts who would run Kirk out of town. You guys are just pathetic. Again, your fandom will not be missed. So please, just STFU.

 

[1hawkeye1]

What sometimes gets lost, is the fact that we are paying for more than just W's. We are paying for a coach who has integrity. KF is earning his pay there.
We are paying for a coach who displays class, win or lose. You don't see people making air guitar videos from KF's sideline antics.

KF has earned the respect of his peers, and the sports nation in general. You can scoff at that if you want. You can bring up rhabdo and DJK if you want. KF is not perfect. But he is a stand up guy who always tries to do the right thing and is respected by coaches everywhere.

You can't measure the effect that has on our university and across all Hawkeye sports programs. But rest assured there is an effect and it is substantial.

I wish we wouldn't lose to subpar teams like MN, too. But think of all the D1 programs who paid for W's alone without regard to the damage it would do to their programs reputation when their football coach used questionable recruiting methods and outright cheating to get a couple more W's a season. In the end, many of them lost a lot more than games.

 

[DwayneTwill]

The Minny loss left a stench in the air that is hard to clear.

Which one?

 

[CraigTNelson]

Investing in above-average college teams would be a bad investment strategy, IMO.

 

[Craig60]

Jon- you made a very interesting point tonight during sound off. Listening to bits and pieces of the show tonight was interesting. Many of the callers sounded almost like Iowa had lost the game. Your point that I found fascinating dealing with one of the callers was (feel free to correct if I got it wrong): Are fans' opinion of the current 7-4 team more harsh because of the disappointing 8-5 season last year? If Iowa had gone 11-1, played in a BCS bowl again, and then all of that talent moved on, we all would have clearly understood this would be a bit of a rebuilding year. But, a very talent laden team didn't live up to preseason expectations, which makes fans feel like last year was the rebuilding year and this year we should be back in the saddle. I had expected 8 wins this year and am still hopeful we get to that number before the bowl game. Could it be some had misplaced expectations based upon last year?

The record this year is misleading as this is the easiest schedule that Iowa has played. No Wisconsin or Ohio State, despite Penn State record they have a terrible offense. You hold a team to 13 points you should win the game. My biggest beef is that the players aren't losing some of these games but the coaches are losing several games a year by their predictable tendencies and their complete failure to adjust. Iowa dominated yesterdays game and yet it was going down the wire. Two bonehead coaching decisions almost cost the game. Putting a player in who hasn't played in two months and a freshman to boot was plain dumb. A play action pass on your own 1 yard borders on complete stupidity. I applaud the passing in that situation but send 4 or 5 recievers out and roll the quarterback out.

 

[JHHawk]

What sometimes gets lost, is the fact that we are paying for more than just W's. We are paying for a coach who has integrity. KF is earning his pay there.
We are paying for a coach who displays class, win or lose. You don't see people making air guitar videos from KF's sideline antics.

KF has earned the respect of his peers, and the sports nation in general. You can scoff at that if you want. You can bring up rhabdo and DJK if you want. KF is not perfect. But he is a stand up guy who always tries to do the right thing and is respected by coaches everywhere.

You can't measure the effect that has on our university and across all Hawkeye sports programs. But rest assured there is an effect and it is substantial.

I wish we wouldn't lose to subpar teams like MN, too. But think of all the D1 programs who paid for W's alone without regard to the damage it would do to their programs reputation when their football coach used questionable recruiting methods and outright cheating to get a couple more W's a season. In the end, many of them lost a lot more than games.

Nailed it. Just like you cannot measure the impact of a winning football program has on the University overall,but know it is very helpful, you also cannot really measure the impact of a coach of KF's overall integrity and respect among peers. Paterno is the perfect example. His reputation and excellence dragged PSU from a 40k stadium on an ag school campus in the hills,to a 108k stadium on a big time academic school respected nationwide....KF is not on that level,but still,he has Iowa trending upward,and that is worth every penny they pay him. Goodwill is an intangible,but valuable asset,and KF generates it.

 

[Billso]

Nailed it. Just like you cannot measure the impact of a winning football program has on the University overall,but know it is very helpful, you also cannot really measure the impact of a coach of KF's overall integrity and respect among peers. Paterno is the perfect example. His reputation and excellence dragged PSU from a 40k stadium on an ag school campus in the hills,to a 108k stadium on a big time academic school respected nationwide....KF is not on that level,but still,he has Iowa trending upward,and that is worth every penny they pay him. Goodwill is an intangible,but valuable asset,and KF generates it.

Good post.

Smart presidents and academic leaders recognize the benefits of leveraging the attention into alumni connections and donations for the betterment of the whole university. They may not like the disproportionate attention on athletics vs. academics, but complaining about it is like baying at the moon. The smart ones make lemonade.

At Iowa, President David Skorton "got it". Hunter Rawlings did not.

 

[JoeHawki]

As Jon pointed out a couple weeks ago, last season was an underachieving disappointment, this season was going to be a down year after having so many starters moving on.

But wpuld it not be nice to be able to reload our team, rather then rebuild?

 

[BabcockIC]

I said pretty much the same thing in a post last week. We screwed up last year this year will be average next year is going to be worse. Our D is not young we have at least 6 players that are upper classmen that are gone after this year along with McNutt and our schedule will be harder.

I think that next year was going to be rough but losing more games than we should have turned on planned down year in to three.

 

[cibula11]

Read an interesting thing online, the UofI football program is worth TOP 15 MONEY WISE in collegiate football.

KF is paid top 5.

My problem is return on investment, technically speaking, we should be right there with the top 10 collegiate programs in the COUNTRY.

Yet, most years, we are not. We are mediocre...... HORRIBLE RETURN ON INVESTMENT!

Yes, this program makes money, but that is because us fans are morons more than anything.

Return on investment = pathetic!

The only morons are the ones that don't understand that just because you are highly paid doesn't mean that you HAVE to get to 11 wins every year. KF might not be paid that money at another school, but then again, he might not be around very long either. Get a clue....we're IOWA, not Ohio St. or Michigan....I'll take KF any day over other potential options.

 

[Foval21]

Ferentz averages a little over 7 wins a year since he has been at Iowa. Looks to me like we are right where we are suppose to be.

We're paying 10 win money for a 7 win coach.

take out his bottom 2 years. his 1st 2 and i will bet his average jumps at least to 8 or 9 wins a season. those were true rebuilding years cause hayden left the cupboard bare. kf does some things i dont agree with but he is good and does what he can at iowa and the most top to bottom competitive conference in the country. all other conferences tend to be top heavy. where the b10 is solid from top to bottom the struggle is that right now the b10 doesnt have a true top.

 

[iowafincity]

Why do people care what he's paid? Say we pay him 2 million a year....what's it matter? Confusing to me

If you buy season tickets or donate, just stop doing so

Maybe if we didn't pay him as much finkbine would be able to host a US open.

 

[iowafincity]

But wpuld it not be nice to be able to reload our team, rather then rebuild?

Simply do not have enough in state talent to do that.

Recruiting to Iowa isn't easy even tho some sure think it is, I wouldn't complain too much about the football program....

Look at FSU, they get all sorts of 4 and 5 star guys and can't do ****

Be thankful for what we have.

 

[goiahawks]

If the minny game was a win instead of a loss i think 90% of Iowa fans would be ok with the season to date.

nailed it