Kennyfromminne
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Beat illinois and all is well againWow. After reading this thread, Cook should declare for the draft. Why come back?
Beat illinois and all is well againWow. After reading this thread, Cook should declare for the draft. Why come back?
He’s not even close to the biggest talent come on.Some of you might be misunderstanding what the OP wrote. He wrote biggest talent. Not necessarily best player. The dude is jacked up. He can jump out of the gym. Physically he's just a freak of a player and at times shows it. That possession where he dribbled it up the court zigging and zagging and got to the rim to draw a foul was crazy impressive. It was 'Lebronish" in that as big as he was he easily dribbled it up the court like that. He's just physically unstoppable at this level. If he had Lebrons basketball IQ he'd be in the NBA. He doesn't need a 3 pt shot (although that'd be sick) to be about as unstoppable of a player as can be at this level. If he could get some more court awareness look out...
I agree. Sometimes when I watch the ball get knocked out of his hands, I think he's related to:Cook is very skilled athletically and talented to a degree right now but he also has bad hands and makes lots of turnovers
But who at Iowa is going to teach him these things, particularly the boxing out part? It's old school, but from the best rebounder of all time, maybe Cook could learn something -Bobby Hanson was ripping him on the broadcast yesterday for not boxing out, saying he just stands there and watches the ball go into the other teams hands.
Imagine if Cook used good fundamentals and improved his 15 foot shot. He should stay another year, work on the fundamentals and his shooting and he could go first round in the '19 draft.
But who at Iowa is going to teach him these things, particularly the boxing out part? It's old school, but from the best rebounder of all time, maybe Cook could learn something -
I have not been to one Iowa basketball practice, so I can only base my supposition on what I watch in person and on tv, but I question whether it's stressed at all, not whether it's stressed enough. To answer your first question, you must teach someone how to do so, it includes knowing where the ball is being shot from, what angle a miss is likely to take, where to position yourself relative to your opponent to cut off that angle, keeping your feet moving, as a few of the fundamentals, and which also includes going over and over it until it sinks in.Do you really need to teach someone how to box out? Or by teach, do you just mean get on him over and over until it sinks in? In my opinion, with defense and rebounding, it's not that Fran can't teach it. It's that he doesn't stress it enough.
I have not been to one Iowa basketball practice, so I can only base my supposition on what I watch in person and on tv, but I question whether it's stressed at all, not whether it's stressed enough. To answer your first question, you must teach someone how to do so, it includes knowing where the ball is being shot from, what angle a miss is likely to take, where to position yourself relative to your opponent to cut off that angle, keeping your feet moving, as a few of the fundamentals, and which also includes going over and over it until it sinks in.
Bobby Hanson was ripping him on the broadcast yesterday for not boxing out, saying he just stands there and watches the ball go into the other teams hands.
Imagine if Cook used good fundamentals and improved his 15 foot shot. He should stay another year, work on the fundamentals and his shooting and he could go first round in the '19 draft.
Playing defense is hard work. It's not a lot of fun. Other than blocking a shot, you don't get to display your athleticism very much. And in high school, if you're a major college level talent, most nights you can get away with being just superior to your opponent, so you don't have to worry about the basics. So, if it's taught, my sense is that it's ignored because it's not often necessary. Then, it gets exposed in college when you're playing against other similar, if not better, talent. Some learn/re-learn it.I guess I'm just assuming that those are so basic, that all college players already know all that. It just has to be stressed to them to do it. Maybe I'm wrong on that assumption.
I guess I'm just assuming that those are so basic, that all college players already know all that. It just has to be stressed to them to do it. Maybe I'm wrong on that assumption.
Agree to disagree. Neither of us are alone in our opinions.He’s not even close to the biggest talent come on.
He for sure does too much of that. He gets 5 boards a game by just being out there and it bouncing to him. If he'd work half as hard as Evans did at it he'd be a 15 pt 12 rebound a game guy. That's just an instinctual effort thing some have and some don't. For some that light might click on later or not at all. Sure be nice if it would for himBobby Hanson was ripping him on the broadcast yesterday for not boxing out, saying he just stands there and watches the ball go into the other teams hands.
Imagine if Cook used good fundamentals and improved his 15 foot shot. He should stay another year, work on the fundamentals and his shooting and he could go first round in the '19 draft.
Do you really need to teach someone how to box out? Or by teach, do you just mean get on him over and over until it sinks in? In my opinion, with defense and rebounding, it's not that Fran can't teach it. It's that he doesn't stress it enough.
Cook is an absolute freak athlete and if he develops the mid range jump shot, I think he could certainly fit that title of most talented but I don't think he fits it right now.
Cook is only averaging 2 more points a game than JBo. I think sometimes the excitement of his athleticism and the power dunking is certainly fun to watch but it's harder for Tyler to impact the game because he doesn't have the ball in his hands as much as a guard.