I'm getting sick of the NCAA

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smoot27

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I have no problem with capitalism or these institutions trying to make money, but the number of bowl games has gotten out of control. Over half of the Big Ten make a bowl. Money is the only thing preventing a move to a much better playoff system. Everyone brags about KF making bowls every year. All he has to do is beat 3 sisters of the poor in non-conference and win 3 more the rest of the way.

The sport that is actually working well now (basketball), they are even in process of trying to screw up. They were talking about adding another round and more teams. This lunacy has to change, but it won't as we'll keep watching it and they'll keep watering it down.
 
I agree that there are too many bowl games and am also tired of adding teams into the NCAA tourney. I was always under the impression that those things were rewards for a solid season. I realize that there are always teams that don't get invited that had good years, but that is going to happen adding more bowls or spots regardless.
 
Wasn't it last year that people were talking about the fact that because so many FCS teams beat FBS teams there could have been a possibility that there weren't enough 6 win eligible teams to fill the bowls?
 
DexterMorgan said:
Don't watch them.
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So I guess if we disapprove of anything in society we shouldn't voice our frustration. :rolleyes:

I enjoy the sport of college football, just not the current system.

Thanks for your well thought out response. It added a lot to the conversation.
 
NCAA has little to do with college football postseason.

Bowls are fine. TV numbers clearly show that they are doing well.

Sounds like the BCS committee that meets tomorrow is leaning toward a ''plus one'' format in the near future,throwing a bone to the ''pro-playoff'' crowd. I can live with it, with 10 teams getting BCS Bowls,with two winners advancing to a single extra game. That is it,tho. Anymore will dilute the regular season. Still need to be undefeated,often, to make that final four,meaning that every single game is huge in the regular season.

So,with the addition of this game, college football will have in a real sense an 8 team playoff,with the Pac 12,Big Ten, SEC and ACC title games winnowing the field from 8 to 4,with a chance that the Big 12 winner might nose out one of the winners of those leagues. Or like this year,maybe,just maybe a pair of teams from the SEC might slip in there. Or like in 2005, both Michigan and OSU might slip in.

A plus one is as far as I want them to go. Now, I could see it being somewhat formalized down the road with the Pac 12,Big Ten,ACC and SEC all agreeing to do away with the BCS and just have those 8 teams(2 division winners in each league) become the final 8,play their conference title games,then have the Big Ten and Pac 12 play in the Rose Bowl and the other two play in the Sugar bowl,and winners play for the mythical title. Fine.
 
smoot27 said:
So I guess if we disapprove of anything in society we shouldn't voice our frustration. :rolleyes:

I enjoy the sport of college football, just not the current system.

Thanks for your well thought out response. It added a lot to the conversation.
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not saying you can't voice your frustration. If enough people stop watching it'll change.
 
I say take the NCAA tourney down to about 32 teams total. Conference champs and then a few at larges. It drags on too long.

And cut bowl games.
 
I don't mind bowl games in themselves - I just don't watch the ones I don't care about. Which happens to be most of them.. I usually just tune into the bigger games. No harm, no foul. And yeah, making bowl games isn't nearly as impressive as it was 20 years ago. So I take that with a grain of salt. I look more at overall record than bowl appearances.

The NCAA Tournament is a perfect format. Only thing that gets under my skin is Duke & UNC getting to play their first & second round games in the state of N. Carolina every stinking year.. May as well just put them in the Sweet 16. But the championship is decided ON THE COURT - which is why the system is light years ahead of college football IMO. It's perfect at 64 teams - and yes, I'm sure they will eventually expand it and water it down. But it will still allow the championship to be decided on the court insteasd of by pollsters or a computer.

That's the way sports should be - the champion should be decided on the court, on the field, in the ring, etc. Decided by the athletes. Let the best man/team win.

You can argue that the football championship is decided on the field - but it's pollsters who can decide who they want as #1 & #2. Like the year LSU jumped VT to get the #2 spot because LSU won the SEC title game. VT was penalized because they didn't play.
 
HawkForce said:
I say take the NCAA tourney down to about 32 teams total. Conference champs and then a few at larges. It drags on too long.

And cut bowl games.
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I personally like the NCAA Tournament exactly how it is today. Not too long IMO.

One sport I think drags on far too long is MLB.
 
HawkForce said:
I say take the NCAA tourney down to about 32 teams total. Conference champs and then a few at larges. It drags on too long.

And cut bowl games.
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i agree that there are too many bowl games, but it only takes two days to go from 64 to 32, thats not very long. i think the first two rounds make the tournament special. I mean who doesnt like a two day marathon of college basketball and the upsets and buzzer beaters that come with it?
 
ajbrand33 said:
i agree that there are too many bowl games, but it only takes two days to go from 64 to 32, thats not very long. i think the first two rounds make the tournament special. I mean who doesnt like a two day marathon of college basketball and the upsets and buzzer beaters that come with it?
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Yep - the entire tournament is only 10 days of basketball. The first round is truly special with all the cinderellas pulling upsets. My favorite sporting event and it's not even close, really.
 
1hawkeye1 said:
What I don't understand is how can there be so many bowls and they are all making money??
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Bowls make money pretty easy, TV rights are huge ESPN/FOX pay the bowls lots of cash to just air the thing, they make up all that and more with the 2.78 billion commercials per game. The bowl also sells tickets, and each of those ticket holders need either thier $4 dollar water, $8 beer, $6.50 hamburger....then the stadium is plasterd with plastic advertisments that fetch cash. How a bowl could not make money would be shocking, get a ton of investors together create a bowl get it approved and you will make a profit. They do have to pay the schools and all but thats where fans who travel help.
 
I don't know all I know is that by the time the elite 8-final four roll around I am sick of college bball.
 
@1977, duke played in Anaheim last year.. And the year before that they played in Texas against Baylor
 
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