If I’m Hockenson...

[Fryowa]

TJ has $19,821,226 in fully guaranteed money. Time to retire due to a football injury, turn that $20 million into $75 million, and call it a day.

F football, and F any of the haters who say he should keep playing and go out like a gladiator.

He could be a trillionaire and it won’t do him a goddamn bit of good when he’s talking like Bernie Kosar, or has to have a babysitter when he leaves the house like Jim McMahon, or randomly crying in front of people like George St Pierre because his emotional functions don’t work anymore.

Hock is a great kid with hopefully a long life in front of him, and that was a ridiculous head injury yesterday. Unfortunately those don’t heal up like an ACL or shoulder; they’re cumulative and he just took about 10 years of subconcussive hits in one fell swoop.

Don’t be the next Tyler Sash (rest his soul), or Junior Seau, or John Mackey. Your future wife and kids will thank you for it.

 

[Jonrn]

TJ has $19,821,226 in fully guaranteed money. Time to retire due to a football injury, turn that $20 million into $75 million, and call it a day.

F football, and F any of the haters who say he should keep playing and go out like a gladiator.

He could be a trillionaire and it won’t do him a goddamn bit of good when he’s talking like Bernie Kosar, or has to have a babysitter when he leaves the house like Jim McMahon, or randomly crying in front of people like George St Pierre because his emotional functions don’t work anymore.

Hock is a great kid with hopefully a long life in front of him, and that was a ridiculous head injury yesterday. Unfortunately those don’t heal up like an ACL or shoulder; they’re cumulative and he just took about 5 years of subconcussive hits in one fell swoop.

Don’t be the next Tyler Sash (rest his soul), or Junior Seau, or John Mackey. Your future wife and kids will thank you for it.

I’d play 4 years and get the hell out. Play out the rookie contract and enjoy life.

 

[uihawk82]

I understand your thoughts and a couple years ago a Wisky linebacker quit the 49ers his rookie year barely into the season for this type of reason. If TJ loves playing he should play but not until this concussion has thoroughly cleared up and then quit hurdling.

 

[Fryowa]

I’d play 4 years and get the hell out.

Just to be clear, he doesn't have to. His full contract is 100% guaranteed.

 

[PCHawk]

I think some fans forget that most players love playing.

 

[NikeHawk21]

I’m just here to figure out how someone is going to turn $19.8 Million (Before taxes), into $75 million dollars.

 

[GesterHawk]

I’m just here to figure out how someone is going to turn $19.8 Million (Before taxes), into $75 million dollars.

Sound investments.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

I’m just here to figure out how someone is going to turn $19.8 Million (Before taxes), into $75 million dollars.

get elected to Congress...piece of cake.

 

[NikeHawk21]

The other funny thing about this thread is how the injury happened. I love Hock as much as the next guy, but the injury was his own fault. He was running sideways and tried to hurdle someone. Any time you leave your feet you are leaving yourself exposed to something like this happening. My guess is he might think twice before trying that move going forward.

 

[hawkeyes87]

I agree these guys should be getting out as soon as they've set themselves up for life- you want to be able to enjoy that life after football.

But,

Just to be clear, he doesn't have to. His full contract is 100% guaranteed.

I'm not sure this is correct in that sense. It's guaranteed against injury. Once he's cleared to play you're talking about voluntary retirement, and I'm fairly sure he wouldn't get the non-prorated bonuuses / guarantees.

 

[Fryowa]

I’m just here to figure out how someone is going to turn $19.8 Million (Before taxes), into $75 million dollars.

Well, as a personal example that I know locally, Adam Timmerman started buying farmland as soon as he got in the league, grew a huge farming operation, still buys land, financed/built/opened a new line of John Deere dealerships (Icon Ag and Turf) in NW Iowa, and then sold Icon to Agrivision a couple years ago for three times the money he stuck into it. Now he rakes in piles of cash from his land rent/ag operations and does work for FCA.

 

[Fryowa]

I'm not sure this is correct in that sense. It's guaranteed against injury. Once he's cleared to play you're talking about voluntary retirement, and I'm fairly sure he wouldn't get the non-prorated bonuuses / guarantees.

All $19,821,226 of it is guaranteed.

And zero chance the league with all the CTE problems it's facing, would deny someone money if they said they had damage and were retiring due to it.

It may eventually drive rookie guaranteed money down in the future if it happens a few times, but Hockenson (or any first rounder) is getting their money. That's why it's so important to make one of the first two rounds.

 

[99topdawg]

TJ has $19,821,226 in fully guaranteed money. Time to retire due to a football injury, turn that $20 million into $75 million, and call it a day.

F football, and F any of the haters who say he should keep playing and go out like a gladiator.

He could be a trillionaire and it won’t do him a goddamn bit of good when he’s talking like Bernie Kosar, or has to have a babysitter when he leaves the house like Jim McMahon, or randomly crying in front of people like George St Pierre because his emotional functions don’t work anymore.

Hock is a great kid with hopefully a long life in front of him, and that was a ridiculous head injury yesterday. Unfortunately those don’t heal up like an ACL or shoulder; they’re cumulative and he just took about 10 years of subconcussive hits in one fell swoop.

Don’t be the next Tyler Sash (rest his soul), or Junior Seau, or John Mackey. Your future wife and kids will thank you for it.

I got multiple concussions in football and I'm fine. While I now take horrible meds to control trauma related seizures, I can honestly say that...wait, what was I talking about?

I can say in all honesty that I totally agree with you. I played baseball in college and absolutely love it, but I've never had more fun playing a sport than I did when I played football. Having said that, I wish I never would've played.

 

[NCHawker]

TJ has $19,821,226 in fully guaranteed money. Time to retire due to a football injury, turn that $20 million into $75 million, and call it a day.

F football, and F any of the haters who say he should keep playing and go out like a gladiator.

I think somebody needs a nap.

 

[Fryowa]

I got multiple concussions in football and I'm fine. While I now take horrible meds to control trauma related seizures, I can honestly say that...wait, what was I talking about?

I can say in all honesty that I totally agree with you. I played baseball in college and absolutely love it, but I've never had more fun playing a sport than I did when I played football. Having said that, I wish I never would've played.

When people use the "they play because they love it" argument I understand it 100%. I really do.

But people do meth because they love it, not because it's what's best for their futures.

 

[Fryowa]

I think somebody needs a nap.

You waste all your nap time on Deace's podcasts. It's not my fault.

 

[westender]

get elected to Congress...piece of cake.

and set up a "charitable" foundation to collect money from foreign governments. Works every time it is tried.

 

[Jonrn]

Just to be clear, he doesn't have to. His full contract is 100% guaranteed.

I know, but I’m sure as a competitor he wants to prove something. The key to not becoming sash or Seau is to let the concussion completely heal before coming back. I’m sure TJH knows that.

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

get elected to Congress...piece of cake.

I’d vote for Hockenson!

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

You waste all your nap time on Deace's podcasts. It's not my fault.

It’s okay, I do too. Not really sure why, I guess it’s just fun to predict each week which of his takes are in the ballpark and which are hot garbage.