I think Indiana wins the B1G title outright now.

Cardinals54 said:
After watching the Nebby / OSU game yesterday my concerns over going to OSU were greatly reduced. Both of those teams looked, well, bad is the only way to say it. If OSU puts on the same performance when we play them, I think we'll be fine. We will take care of Wisconsin with not a lot of trouble. MSU brought them back to reality. That pretty much leaves the Indiana game as the decider whether we share or win outright imo. Like nearly all teams, Indiana is NOT the same team on the road as they are at home. I haven't looked, but I don't think they've won a Big 10 road game of consequence this year. The Michigan game is hard to predict in that you can't tell either teams' mindset right now until everything plays out between now and then imo. If Michigan is playing for the NCAA berth and B10 seeding, it'll be double tough to go there and win. On the other hand if Iowa is playing for an outright title and Michigan's lot is already cast, they might just be playing to get on to the tourney. IF Iowa is playing the calibre they've played the first 20 games of the season, I think we beat them regardless. SO many intangibles right now that I think trying to predict or anticipate is nearly impossible for that game imo. All I know is Wisconsin is first up and that's where all of the team's focus needs to be.
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Your first sentence is guilty of the same thing most iowa fans are guilt off right now. How a team plays one night has nothing to do with how a team will play the next night. If you think OSU will play the same way at home against Iowa as they did on the road against Nebraska, you're as crazy as the fans who think Iowa will play the same at home against Wisconsin as they did on the road against Penn State.
 
I don't think Iowa will win out, but I think they will beat Indiana.

And to say that this is typical Iowa is pretty silly
 
eyekwah said:
If Indiana does win the regular conference title there should be an asterisk along side to point out that it is a fraud. Their two plays were/are Nebraska, Minnesota, Illinois, Wisconsin and Iowa. Compare that to Iowa's: MSU, MI, PU, IU, and PSU. Indiana would have three more losses right now.
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which is just what some some said out our football schedule last fall.

No..you play the schedule you have.
 
uihawk82 said:
^^ I agree that Fran needs to get these guys back to being more agressive on defense and rebounding.

I dont see any reason why they cant play really good bball and win their last 4 games. On paper recordwise etc they are better than their last 4 opponents when you take into account they play IU at home.

This is one of those years where they win at Mich and the hawks have usually played well at OSU.
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Bingo, ui. I personally feel their 7 games in 21 days with to roadies to the east coast and 4 roadies overall ran the legs out of Iowa. This week off should be exactly what the doctor ordered.
 
PCHawk said:
Your first sentence is guilty of the same thing most iowa fans are guilt off right now. How a team plays one night has nothing to do with how a team will play the next night. If you think OSU will play the same way at home against Iowa as they did on the road against Nebraska, you're as crazy as the fans who think Iowa will play the same at home against Wisconsin as they did on the road against Penn State.
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The talent level rather than the effort is what I was referring to regarding Ohio State in my previous post, tho I sure didn't make that clear in re-reading it. In fact, probably the opposite. Anyway, OSU players didn't seem to have (imo) near as much skill as I thought they would have at this point. I understand they're pretty young, but I expected them to be a VERY talented bunch. I didn't see that. You can improve effort from week to week. You can't improve skills much in that time span. Not to say the game or any of the ones left will be easy, but as I said I'm not nearly as concerned today about that game as I was before yesterday.
 
Cardinals54 said:
The talent level rather than the effort is what I was referring to regarding Ohio State in my previous post, tho I sure didn't make that clear in re-reading it. In fact, probably the opposite. Anyway, OSU players didn't seem to have (imo) near as much skill as I thought they would have at this point. I understand they're pretty young, but I expected them to be a VERY talented bunch. I didn't see that. You can improve effort from week to week. You can't improve skills much in that time span. Not to say the game or any of the ones left will be easy, but as I said I'm not nearly as concerned today about that game as I was before yesterday.
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Gotcha. Yea it's easy to just assume they have talent because they're OSU, but if they missed on some recruits like everyone does from time to time, maybe they really don't.
 
Cardinals54 said:
The talent level rather than the effort is what I was referring to regarding Ohio State in my previous post, tho I sure didn't make that clear in re-reading it. In fact, probably the opposite. Anyway, OSU players didn't seem to have (imo) near as much skill as I thought they would have at this point. I understand they're pretty young, but I expected them to be a VERY talented bunch. I didn't see that. You can improve effort from week to week. You can't improve skills much in that time span. Not to say the game or any of the ones left will be easy, but as I said I'm not nearly as concerned today about that game as I was before yesterday.
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Given the crazy NCAA season in general thus far, I think its ridiculous to call ANY conference race over at this point. Indiana still has tough games to go this season, and Minnesota and Penn State have proven this season that no road game is a gimme.

At worst, Iowa will likely finish 3rd, a bye clear through to the b10 tournament quarterfinals, a 3/4 seed in the ncaa tournament. that is head & shoulders above what ANYONE was expecting 6 months ago. this is beyond hilarious that people are complaining about this season, stating we're out of the B10 race, with 4 games to go, is just a smidge of hyperbole.

Enjoy the ride folks.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
which is just what some some said out our football schedule last fall.

No..you play the schedule you have.
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If our cross over games in football were Indiana, Maryland, and Rutgers, and we won the west by one game over Wisconsin who's cross overs were Michigan, Michigan State, and Ohio State, we would still take the trophy. But the win should come with an asterisk.
 
PCHawk said:
Gotcha. Yea it's easy to just assume they have talent because they're OSU, but if they missed on some recruits like everyone does from time to time, maybe they really don't.
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Guilty as charged I thought they would just move on from Russell. 9-5(18-10) they still have a great shot to get in the tourney. The OSU game feels like a loss right now.
 
Good old MSU still hanging around. IN and IA lose a couple and MSU is positioned well to share the title. MSU has 2 games vs. tOSU left along with PSU at home and Rutgers on the road. Likely looking at the best BIG seed going into the Tourney unless Iowa wins out.

MSU and IN looking the best on the floor as of late if that's a precursor to what might remain. WI playing well also but don't see them winning out with 3 road games, IA, MN, PU among their 5 remaining.
 
Shock and surprise! Iowa is not running away with a confirmed BT outright title in mid February. Nor is anyone else. Bad teams are occasionally upsetting the top contenders. Players are feeling the late season fatigue and pressure. Some teams that were supposed to be middle of the pack are contenders and some who were to be top contenders are struggling to even get there. BT teams have gone on some unusual streaks, and have seemingly faded at times.

About the only two rare events I can find are Bo Ryan absent from the Wisconsin bench and Iowa in contention for a BT regular season title, a good seed in the BT Tournament, and a good seed in the NCAA.

Geez. Go figure.
 
Threads like this are just silly. I don't know why some folks are so negative after our first bad loss of the season. Losses like PSU happen sometimes. It's difficult for any team to go through an entire season without a bad loss. This team is still doing much better than any of us expected, and the fact we are still fully in play for a 1 seed is kind of amazing. Let's just enjoy this season instead of the complaining and negativity. GO HAWKS!
 
Stanzi said:
Threads like this are just silly. I don't know why some folks are so negative after our first bad loss of the season. Losses like PSU happen sometimes. It's difficult for any team to go through an entire season without a bad loss. This team is still doing much better than any of us expected, and the fact we are still fully in play for a 1 seed is kind of amazing. Let's just enjoy this season instead of the complaining and negativity. GO HAWKS!
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Do we need to drag up your quotes from after the game? ;)
 
This has been a great season, no matter what happens the rest of the way. This team will finish strong, starting with Wisconsin on Wednesday. Indiana's easy schedule has been ridiculous, but Maryland is a very tough match up for them. I see them losing to Maryland at home.
 
I would rather play our remaining schedule over Indiana's. Both teams have 3 winnable games. Both teams are undefeated at home...advantage Iowa because of the home game head to head IMO.
 
I certainly don't like that Iowa plays at OSU late Sunday afternoon and has to turn around and play Indiana on Tuesday, while Indiana gets the weekend off going into the game.
 
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