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busabus114
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The one big difference is KF's offspring actually have Big Ten talent
ibahawkeye
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He gives me hope that I may still have a shot at a college basketball career.
masoncityhawkeye
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I don't have a problem playing but he should only be in for about 5 mins while Cully get 35 mins.
busabus114
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If thats the case then i am assuming that you dont have a problem with Iowa being 8-14? Because 8-14 is what you get when guys of Lil Lick's talent level are pushed into serious action.
GhostofBTT
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I am amused because of all of the "Suck it haters" threads we had after the IU game, where the true believers came out for their pound of flesh.
Isn't it hard to believe that just a week ago, things were turning around, and we had a chance to do some damage this season, and then we were going to compete next season withour recruits coming in.
Fast forward to today, Lick is a loser, his kid is a loser, Keno Davis is already our new coach, and blah blah blah.
Some may like to say that fans like this are "passionate". I think they're stupid. There are just too many stupid people out there. It kind of sucks.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
This is the quintessential point that I think almost every basketball fan should be able to see... and it troubles me that Coach Lickliter doesn't see it this way. The fact that Todd thinks John should have gotten more time during the OSU game just adds more to it.
Me thinks daddy sees the writing on the wall so is going to try to get little boy as many minutes as he can till he gets shown the door at the end of the year.
The extremists on both sides are just more vocal when something goes their way.
I will say I felt even after the Michigan game that we could still turn it around. Just flush that game and keep improving the nucleus of players. At least there would be a chance at the post season next year where this year we couldn't say that. However, there can't be unrest in the program because the core group of players have to return. With Jon hinting at unrest in the program with the handling of his son's minutes this could be the straw that broke the camel's back. Even one transfer of Payne, May, Gatens, Cole, Cougill or Fuller would be the end of Lick.
Man we need a good game against Illinois. I am not saying it is a most win but I really think they need to be in it until the end. It will be interesting to see what happens if Lick plays his son for >15 minutes.
I will say I felt even after the Michigan game that we could still turn it around. Just flush that game and keep improving the nucleus of players. At least there would be a chance at the post season next year where this year we couldn't say that. However, there can't be unrest in the program because the core group of players have to return. With Jon hinting at unrest in the program with the handling of his son's minutes this could be the straw that broke the camel's back. Even one transfer of Payne, May, Gatens, Cole, Cougill or Fuller would be the end of Lick.
Man we need a good game against Illinois. I am not saying it is a most win but I really think they need to be in it until the end. It will be interesting to see what happens if Lick plays his son for >15 minutes.
hawkeye12345
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Lil Brick is small potatoes in comparison with the bigger issues that the Iowa basketball team is facing. If Big Lick thinks that his kid is any where close to D1 talent and warrants more minutes because of the way he plays fundamental ball then he clearly can't identify real talent let alone recruit it.
We are in this situation because we (Lick) chased away Peterson and Freeman. If we had either of those two players on this years team then Cully wouldn't be thrown to the wolves and we would have a much deeper, more experienced roster. But that's not the case. Call it what you want, make as many excuses as you wish, the bottom line is this coach can't seem to find the right talent nor keep the talent once its on campus.
The final straw is going to be at the end of the season to see if any player and I mean ANY player leaves the program. This program can not afford to continue the rebuilding process with players leaving the program. Iowa is a major college program paying coaches major college salaries. If they can't get it done then pull the plug and move on to the next guy.
We are in this situation because we (Lick) chased away Peterson and Freeman. If we had either of those two players on this years team then Cully wouldn't be thrown to the wolves and we would have a much deeper, more experienced roster. But that's not the case. Call it what you want, make as many excuses as you wish, the bottom line is this coach can't seem to find the right talent nor keep the talent once its on campus.
The final straw is going to be at the end of the season to see if any player and I mean ANY player leaves the program. This program can not afford to continue the rebuilding process with players leaving the program. Iowa is a major college program paying coaches major college salaries. If they can't get it done then pull the plug and move on to the next guy.
woodyk1
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Agreed that losing Peterson hurt. Freeman would be gone if he stayed here (and didn't redshirt) so he would not have helped this year. I also agree that is anyone leaves at the end of the year, then it may be time to move on.
One question - with Payne changing commitments the way he did, does he still come here if Peterson (and/or Jake Kelly) is still here? Did Cully come here knowing he would play a lot? I am not sure, so that is why I asked the question. Just curious.
I think that Cully did have legit interest in Iowa in the summer of 08,when the floods kept him away from the elite camp. And, I really do not think he had a lot of other irons in the fire after de-committing from Bama. So, I presume that he would have come with or without Jeff Peterson here already. BTW...Jeff Peterson shot 40% from 3 last year,and 45% overall...both marks would lead the rest of our guard court by a healthy margin...
rdubbs
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Of course I don't enjoy being 8-14 but with the players that left after last year what did you expect this season? 14-8?
busabus114
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No one expected a great season but thats part of the problem. All of these transfers fall on the head coach. He has been unable to retain talent sufficient enough to win in the big ten and that is why i have a problem with Lil Lick playing. I know he is playing because we have nobody else but that leads to the bigger question - WHY IN THE HELL DONT WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE? Lil Lick is not even close to a Big Ten player and the fact that we cant compile and retain enough talent to keep him on the bench is a joke
rdubbs
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What's to say bringing in a new coach wouldn't chase off more players?
busabus114
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Its impossible to say for sure - anytime you bring in a new coach you usually lose players initially but you shouldnt lose multiple players every single offseason. I think it would be safe to say that the amount of attrition weve had with Lick is well above normal.
I am not calling for his head - im simply calling for him and his staff to recruit some players who are better than John Lickliter. Shouldnt be very hard since there are dozens of them playing at the field house every night
rdubbs
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I'm pretty sure Lil Lick is playing due to the lack of players. The class in next season looks to be pretty good
busabus114
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I agree he is playing due to lack of players. My only point is that we should not be in this situation. We should have better options but we dont
