I am so tired...

[Billso]

...of the barrage of complaints about "schemes" and "conservatism" and play-calling. I appreciate that frustration can lead people to say dumb things, but if you've watched college football for any meaningful length of time, you should know better.

Winning college football is primarily about (in no particular order):

• talent
• player development
• execution
• emotion

While you can quibble about ordering, you will never convince me that schemes or play-calling ever makes the top 4. I thought Charlie Weiss' failure laid that one permanently to rest. Former players stress it constantly. And its the primary theme of Hayden Fry's recently-posted media rant.

/rant

 

[VintageHawkeye]

So you weren't mad, worried, disappointed, and generally resigned to having a crappy day when teh Hawks were getting smoked after 3 quarters by another very mediocre opponent...at home?

 

[olivecourt]

So you weren't mad, worried, disappointed, and generally resigned to having a crappy day when teh Hawks were getting smoked after 3 quarters by another very mediocre opponent...at home?

I was mad about the fact that we couldn't block anyone, couldn't go four plays without a penalty, and that JVB couldn't spot wide-open receivers downfield. I didn't spend a minute thinking about the scheme, offensively or defensively.

 

[1977Hawkeye]

I, for one, think that there isn't anything wrong with having a generally conservative nature. But being TOO conservative I think can hurt you. I believe that being overly conservative has cost us some games in the past. If we go balls out on everything, taking those risks could hurt us too.. But I think there's a time and a place for everything. No such thing as a 1-size-fits all philosophy IMO.

 

[Billso]

So you weren't mad, worried, disappointed, and generally resigned to having a crappy day when teh Hawks were getting smoked after 3 quarters by another very mediocre opponent...at home?

All of the above. But I wasn't whining about schemes, conservatism or play-calling.

 

[eyekwah]

...of the barrage of complaints about "schemes" and "conservatism" and play-calling. I appreciate that frustration can lead people to say dumb things, but if you've watched college football for any meaningful length of time, you should know better.

Winning college football is primarily about (in no particular order):

• talent
• player development
• execution
• emotion

While you can quibble about ordering, you will never convince me that schemes or play-calling ever makes the top 4. I thought Charlie Weiss' failure laid that one permanently to rest. Former players stress it constantly. And its the primary theme of Hayden Fry's recently-posted media rant.

/rant

+1

 

[VintageHawkeye]

All of the above. But I wasn't whining about schemes, conservatism or play-calling.

What is this message board for, if not free expression and venting? What did you want us to post during the first 75% of this game?!? Praise for KOK's horrible game planning and the lack of energy by the entire squad?

 

[Southernhawk]

Talent, player development, execution and emotion are moot when they sit on the ball, when your aforementioned top four criteria could have been on display, as they were in the 4th quarter today. Play calling makes a difference.

 

[Billso]

Talent, player development, execution and emotion are moot when they sit on the ball, when your aforementioned top four criteria could have been on display, as they were in the 4th quarter today. Play calling makes a difference.

Right, because there were no drops, missed blocks, overthrows, penalties, broken routes or other executional breakdowns.

Thank you for proving my point beautifully.

 

[smoot27]

...of the barrage of complaints about "schemes" and "conservatism" and play-calling. I appreciate that frustration can lead people to say dumb things, but if you've watched college football for any meaningful length of time, you should know better.



Winning college football is primarily about (in no particular order):

• talent
• player development
• execution
• emotion

While you can quibble about ordering, you will never convince me that schemes or play-calling ever makes the top 4. I thought Charlie Weiss' failure laid that one permanently to rest. Former players stress it constantly. And its the primary theme of Hayden Fry's recently-posted media rant.

/rant

It's no coincidence that Green Bay, New England, New Orleans and the Colts all run 3 to 4 wide receiver sets out of the shotgun. The schemes matter when you aren't running the appropriate ones to fit your players' strengths.

You wouldn't put any of these qb's under center 90% of the game, and you shouldn't with JVB either. While he may not be elite, it was clear today he was more comfortable in the shotgun which he played in all throughout HS.

 

[TheNebraskaHawk]

I can honestly say that I was disappointed in the early execution, but for some reason, I never thought that we were out of the game. Strange feeling, but I knew they had the potential and they proved me right. My wife even commented about my mood, as usually I am saying a few select cuss words (quite a few...) if the Hawks are playing like they were early, but today I only let one such word go (Vandy's interception). Great win and great game!

 

[Foval21]

bad playcalling can be made up for by talent a blown assignment can ruin a good play call. Billso's point is correct. KOK and KF will be given credit for the end of the game, but in reality it was that our offense started executing where it wasn't at the beginning. Remember how many penalties the players had, now think how many of those on Iowa happened in the 4th quarter...execution!

 

[Southernhawk]

Right, because there were no drops, missed blocks, overthrows, broken routes or other executional breakdowns.

Thank you for proving my point beautifully.

Plenty of those. But, um, did you watch the fourth quarter when they opened it up and let the talent play? The point is what good is talent, etc. when the play calling sucks and what good is excellent playcalling where there is no talent, etc.? You need both.

 

[ssckelley]

Thank god you're not a Pitt fan right?

 

[Deserthawk29]

A little confused with your post about schemes not being important Nothing in that 3 rd and 4 th quarter resembled anything traditional to iowa. JVB was out of the shotgun 75 percent of the time. Passing 90 percent of the time. Iowa unleashed their talent and finally took the reigns off of JVB. That win was a result of a completely different scheme that Iowa runs.

 

[Billso]

A little confused with your post about schemes not being important Nothing in that 3 rd and 4 th quarter resembled anything traditional to iowa. JVB was out of the shotgun 75 percent of the time. Passing 90 percent of the time. Iowa unleashed their talent and finally took the reigns off of JVB. That win was a result of a completely different scheme that Iowa runs.

Didn't say they're unimportant. Did say they're not in the top 4 (if you disagree, share your ranking with us).

That win was principally the result of executing plays on both offense and defense, no longer shooting ourselves in the foot. Had JVB continued overthrowing, or the OL continued false-starting, those schemes would've been 3-and-out just like before.

 

[imported_UHawk]

...of the barrage of complaints about "schemes" and "conservatism" and play-calling. I appreciate that frustration can lead people to say dumb things, but if you've watched college football for any meaningful length of time, you should know better.

Winning college football is primarily about (in no particular order):

• talent
• player development
• execution
• emotion

While you can quibble about ordering, you will never convince me that schemes or play-calling ever makes the top 4. I thought Charlie Weiss' failure laid that one permanently to rest. Former players stress it constantly. And its the primary theme of Hayden Fry's recently-posted media rant.

/rant

Don't know if this is the smartest thing or dumbest thing I have ever read.