Howe: What Now after Big Ten Bombshell?

[Fryowa]

Does Iowa still do that thing where DMACC credits transfer freely to Iowa, ISU and UNI? My parents made me pay for my own college and I did like 60 credit hours at DMACC. It was like $75 or $80 per credit hour and I was able to pay for the first two years without any debt. Anyone who goes to one of the regents universities would have to be an absolute moron not to transfer to DMACC and just bang out some credits. If you need upper level classes, maybe go part time at Iowa and take some gen ed credits at DMACC.

Anyone nowadays doing a full 4 years at a 4 year school, public or private, is a total moron. The first two years of a bachelors degree is nothing but high school all over again, the smart move is to go to a community college and get it done for a fifth of the price and transfer all your credits. There are enough community colleges in Iowa that almost all kids could live at home and commute.

There's also free college credits offered by high schools. A buddy of mine lives in Hospers and his kids went to the Sheldon school system; both of them had damn near their first year of college credits knocked out for free before they graduated high school, then did a little over a year at NCC. Transferred all that and one went to Iowa, the other to SDSU and only had to spend two years there. They had 4 year degrees from good schools in three years at waaaaaay less that half price.

But you still have a ton of idiot students who do 4 years at a 4 year school paying tuition, dorms, and meals, and idiot parents who let them do it without saying anything.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I get it.

I love baseball, but I don’t think football and basketball should have to pay for all those scholarships, facilities, equipment, and salaries. It makes a house of cards and we’re seeing now why it’s a bad idea to hang the livelihood of 20 some different sports on the success of only 2.

Thanks to all our wonderful politicians for title IX and all that goes with that... It's such a house of cards for sure. It is funny how in the real world now we have guys like Bernie Sanders who got a lot of traction with that mindset of so many of our wants should turn into entitlements. Womens rowing is great. It really is. But should it be funded by football $ if it can't (none of them can) self sustain itself?..

 

[hawkdrummer1]

I know Minnesota got their field upgraded when the Vikings had to play there so it has a heating system underneath. I have no idea about the rest of the conference. Do any of the others have one? Everyone in the B1G is always done by the end of November.

We all remember Iowa playing BC in Yankee Stadium on a frozen field. It affected the quality of the game and also raises the probability of injuries.

US Bank, Ford Field, Lucas Oil are possibilities but that would mean a lot of flexibility. Lambeau Field has a heated field. I think every NFL stadium has to have one that meets the NFL standards.

Nobody else has heated turf. Even so, it only makes so much difference. In most of the conference average temps in Jan and Feb are around freezing (or below). Attempting to play in those months is foolish.

I'd suggest a modification of Spring camp. A short season (maybe 4-6 games) just to keep fans engaged. That would also make a full Fall season easier from a physical standpoint. Players wouldn't as much recovery time as after a 12-13 game season. BTW, grass fields will get the piss beat out of them in Spring football...they're not ready yet. They'll be mud holes 2 games in. ISMoo, Mich St, Penn St, Purdue and NW have grass.

That said, just play the Fall '20 season or wait til Fall of '21. Half-assing something just delayed by a few months makes no sense.

 

[BryceC]

Does Iowa still do that thing where DMACC credits transfer freely to Iowa, ISU and UNI? My parents made me pay for my own college and I did like 60 credit hours at DMACC. It was like $75 or $80 per credit hour and I was able to pay for the first two years without any debt. Anyone who goes to one of the regents universities would have to be an absolute moron not to transfer to DMACC and just bang out some credits. If you need upper level classes, maybe go part time at Iowa and take some gen ed credits at DMACC.

Yup. You have to be a little careful with credits transferring within your major, but there is no reason why you couldn't bang out your electives. I knew a lot of guys in business or ag that would take their math requirement class at at night at DMACC in Boone, just carpool up, drive over, and take a super easy class just to get it done.

 

[RobHowe]

It's about the money for the athletic departments and exposure for the student-athletes not NFL locks or the guys trying to move up in the draft. If they can play in the spring, they will. If it's cold, they'll deal with it. All parties have a lot at stake. And fans will go if they can.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Yup. You have to be a little careful with credits transferring within your major, but there is no reason why you couldn't bang out your electives. I knew a lot of guys in business or ag that would take their math requirement class at at night at DMACC in Boone, just carpool up, drive over, and take a super easy class just to get it done.

Some of the classes at DMACC were hard as shit. I took Spanish there and the teacher spoke in English for maybe 30 seconds during the entire semester and it was on the first day when, after rambling in Spanish for 5 minutes, he said "My parents are Mexican and I grew up speaking Spanish and I want you to know that I speak English as well. The whole class will be in Spanish, English is forbidden. If you signed up for this class at community college for easy credit, you are at the wrong place." Maybe half the class dropped after the first day.

I also took two history classes there with a prof who was fantastic. He was some rich dude who had a PhD in history from Standford and just taught one class a semester for fun. We had 20 in the class and this guy taught the whole damned thing Socratic. I took finite math and the teacher would make a student demonstrate how to solve homework problems on the chalkboard each class and it worked because there were only like 10 people in the class. In an era where a place like Iowa is going to have at least 90% of the first year classes taught by a TA in a huge group setting, I think there is huge value in places like DMACC.

Down here, the state lottery pays for juco. You can get half of college for 100% free less some books and a small campus fee. There are intensive two year manufacturing and tech programs that kids can do for free that have jobs that pay between 70k and 90k when they graduate at 20.